• aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    Retirees ‘idiots’ as they keep savings they need to live in volatile asset classes such as stocks.

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      Boomers lived their entire lives failing upwards. Why wouldn’t they expect things to just go their way?

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    Well, if you voted for these dumbasses and are now pikachu over how idiotic they actually are…hard to feel sorry for you.

    BTW, if you say “I didn’t vote for that”…YES YOU DID. It’s not like donvict was quiet about his love for tariffs.

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      I mean, I know quite a few retirees who actively voted for his opponent. So I wouldn’t feel right saying that THEY voted for it, no? However, around my area, they definitely are a minority in their age group, so I think statistically speaking you are probably going to be right most of the time.

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    Lol, I rolled my 401k to an IRA as part of a actively managed fidelity fund right after Trump got inaugurated. If I hadn’t I would be down about 150k, instead I’m up 35k already, and that was after cashing out just below all time high.

    That said,I decided to ride it out in my fuck around E-Trade account. I went from being up 25k on jan 1st to being down 9k today.

    Trump’s ‘plan’ is to crash the market so that people with large reserves of cash can buy at all time low. Then he’ll back pedal his bullshit and things will go up, so they’ll sell. It’s not going to go back up to what it was before his watch, at least not with him around. People who don’t have the cash reserves/appetite to buy in a recession will get fucked, and that’s most people in the country

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      Yeah but you can’t just say “ok the plan worked, tariffs are off now” and expect the rest of the world to be chill about that. It’s too late to backpedal.

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      I really don’t think this is part of some grander plan. I think he really thinks blanket tariffs are a good idea.

      Tariff man is an idiot.

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    But it’s so worth it when you remember that he ended all that DEI stuff and stopped those two trans kids from playing women’s sports.

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    People at or near retirement age should have a 401k invested in more safe funds with a higher mix of bonds. Why would they have such a high proportion of stocks that a drop in the stock market would impact their spending habits?

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      Yeah, exactly my thoughts. At retirement age, most or all your investments should be low risk.

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    That’s the best part. The baby boomers created this shit and now they can’t retire. Good for them!

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      you guys can retire at FIFTY FOUR?

      My cousin retired 2 years ago at 48.

      Stock market whiz? Nah: union.

      He started working at a local mechanic in high-school, as engines were interesting; just sweeping up. He asked questions. He applied for his apprenticeship and the school district moved him to the ‘trade’ oriented school where the rough kids seemed to end up completely randomly when catchment overlapped. Did metal shop in his final year and found a funding programme to get through his first courses. Displayed a natural talent for adequate work and straightforward math that was apparently everything people needed when paired with his indomitable spirit and happier-than-sadder mood profile. In short: he hustled, he did his fucking work and he was a net-positive to work with.

      Now we fast-forward. The union was good to him, and he moved into jobs where his 5’8 size, nimble fingers and “yeah, I’ll crawl in the slushy muck” attitude got him as many opportunities as his quick wit got him out of shitty politics. He went to a place we call Fort McMoney and was able to exercise his options when bosses were dinks; and he did so very quickly and openly, explaining what’s happening on the way out – “We agreed on this vacation time, but you broke that agreement. I’m still getting on the plane tonight. I got a job with the guy down the road, so that’s why I’m clearing out. I’m sorry it went this way, but we both get to learn from this. Good luck, and have a great weekend.”

      At 48 he’d done his 25-plus years at one career and many shops, and the half-pay-for-life union retirement kicked in.

      He now rides his donorcycle with his adorable wife or they take the little car on trips to climb mountains or see a lake or something. He got a shitty place in a nice place, made some friends and some of them knew how to fix up his place and needed his own skills, and his easygoing attitude provided the glue to get everything fixed everywhere, and he’s kinda set.

      He touches grass and trees a lot, and the pics he posts on his cell phone show some great locations and his beaming face in the dawn light. He’s fucking winning so hard and I’m half jealous and intensely proud of him because he is actually an absolute sweetie and a great and caring guy.

      Guys, build better unions or build better labour code. Focus on getting into a work arrangement with a group that pretends to like you better than at-will dot-com fat-cat “we’re a family” pizza-party dickheads think they’re pretending.

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        I’m really happy for this guy and just absolutely despairing over how weak labor generally is. People don’t even imagine a better world, it feels like.

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      Don’t worry, he won’t stop working. He’ll spend the next 15 years as a ‘consultant’ in his old position and make 100 times more than he did as an employee.

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      It probably means that he retired from a job and receives that retirement pay, but he still won’t qualify for social security or other benefits until he hits whatever age they’ve raised it to. Some companies let you retire after 20 years, some even less.

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        receives that retirement pay

        Lol actual pensions are rare in the US these days. Most companies/institutions just do a 401k - the decline of which is exactly what will kill your early retirement plans.

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      He was senior director of risk management, so I assume more than 100k+ salary a year.

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      Very very few can. Or do. But yes.

      He can’t access that 401k without some pretty significant restrictions or penalties, though.

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    If a retiree is holding significant stocks that they will need to liquidate soon, then they fucked up. It’s their own fault at this point.

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      my FIL recently admitted to voting for Trump to ensure his retirement investments gained. he’s heavily invested in Nat defense.

      when we found out, the family was disappointed. though, I hope not nearly as disappointed as he is right now.

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    Clearly they just need to take their own advice:

    1. No more avocado toast

    2. Stop buying so much coffee out. Make it at home.

    3. ???

    4. Profit.

    Simple as.

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      Don’t forget about the cell phone plan, Internet access, Netflix or large screen TVs. I remember reading about “boomer math”, if I remember correctly - the skewed notion about what really costs what.

      Used to be a color TV was a luxury, and that probably made a real imprint on some. Same for coffee - until Starbucks really cracked that market, the idea of paying more than fifty cents or whatever for a cup of coffee was considered ludicrous at one time. And things like cell phones, Netflix and Internet were not really things in their formative years…

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    “I don’t want to have to worry that everyone is constantly changing my financial reality,” said Alison Carey, 64, of Oregon, a freelancer in the theater industry. “Let the economy do its machinations, but don’t put me in the gears.”

    Sorry you had to learn it this way, Alison, but “the economy” has always been grinding people up in its gears. The main difference is, that it is now reaching you, personally.

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    It’s ok everyone they will all be a lot better off once manufacturing comes back to the US, they can make up the difference by working in a local sweatshop.

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      Yeah, just hold on and wait for those low paying, low skilled manufacturing jobs that no one really wants to work, and that we don’t have logistics in place to support.

      Then you can make minimum wage working 12 hour shifts with no pension and a 401k that will flatline right before you can retire.

      When you die next to the assembly line they’ll cover your face with a red MAGA hat right before they wheel you to the Soylent green processing facility

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      Didn’t you hear? Vance is saying that manufacturing is never coming back to the US.

      So even working in a sweatshop won’t be an option. Well, I guess until we’re colonized.

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    Let’s go vote republican !

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