It’s one thing for a person to say something this dumb, but who are the 26+ other people who upvoted it???

Really? It doesn’t matter unless approval is 0%? Something that has literally never happened and is essentially impossible?

Real floor is probably around 1/4

Based on literally nothing but vibes.

The lowest I’ve seen was 33%. Like literally, 1/3 is the floor.

1/3+ of the people in this country are awful people, and even after Trump is gone we’re supposed to just live side by side with them?

Marx had a lot to say about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_alienation

Edit:

In his analysis, Marx identified four key aspects of alienated labour. First, the worker is alienated from the product of their labour, which is appropriated by the capitalist and confronts the worker as a hostile power.

Second, they are alienated from the activity of production itself, which is experienced not as a fulfilling expression of creativity but as coerced, meaningless toil.

Third, this leads to alienation from their own human nature, or species-being (Gattungswesen), as free, conscious activity is reduced to a mere means of survival.

Finally, the worker is alienated from other people, as social relationships become reified and mediated by market exchange, fostering competition and indifference rather than community.

Looks like #2 and #3 apply directly to the situation in your comment.

Dude knew what he was talking about.

Yeah. Tautologies are never mind blowing.

What’s actually blowing my mind is your obvious purposeful obtuseness.

🤯

Do you think this is clever or something? Are you the first person to act obtuse and pretend not to understand something?

All the white South Africans they’re importing probably

In every religion you ignore every other religion, so that point is bollocks.

How does that negate my point? If anything, it supports my point. Pascal’s Wager is specifically about Christianity. That’s like literally my point.

Everyone faces the roulette wheel

No. Only people who think they are going to be subjected to eternal punishment for not believing. I’ve got no religion roulette wheel in my life because I’ve never been given a single good reason to believe I’m facing eternal punishment.

In some religions all you have to do is repent at the last minute.

Only if you choose the correct god. You’ve got a 1 in several thousand chance of being correct. Good luck I guess.

And finally:

How do you know you cant trick god?

Because literally the definition of the word “omniscient”. If you can trick your god into thinking your beliefs are genuine, when in reality you’re just hedging your bets, then they’re not omniscient.

No need to apologize, this is for anyone who happens to read this, not just you.

It’s always us normies that end up footing the bill and feeling the pain (sometimes literally to the point of dying).

Every fucking time.

How about babies who die from terminal illnesses?

So he could speak in a proverb so his those that are not his children would not understand

Care to explain this a little more? Jesus was gatekeeping his message? Is this the claim you’re making?

If so, you’ve got an extreme misunderstanding of what Jesus’ alleged message was.

Who’s upset? I’m tired of this common reaction to any kind of calm and measured comments about religion. Pretending that the person is a really angry “militant atheist”. Like I’m foaming at the mouth over here because I pointed out that Pascal’s Wager is dumb.

Anyway, to answer your question, pick one:

Because it ignores the existence of every other god except the one you decide to hedge your bets by believing. The whole idea is so Christian-centric, but that’s just one of literally thousands of gods that millions of people believe in.

To add to that, in many of those religions, choosing the wrong god, is actually worse than atheism.

Or because an omniscient god would know that your claimed belief is inauthentic. You’re not going to trick an omniscient god into thinking you actually believe if you don’t.

Or because Pascal’s claim that there’s “nothing to lose” is bullshit because adhering to a religion requires real costs like lifestyle changes, major time commitments, and often tithing of a % of all of your income. That’s quite a lot to lose.

If that’s not enough, here is an interesting analysis of it from a game theory pov: https://blogs.cornell.edu/info2040/2019/09/23/flaws-in-the-logic-of-pascals-wager/

Yes, exactly. That was my point.

(Though in reality, a flood as large as is claimed would definitely have wiped out many underwater animal habitats. Would completely fucked up all of the underwater ecology).

This has to be one of the dumbest attempts at an analogy I’ve ever seen.

It’s not even possible to kill yourself with a bow and arrow without like a system of fucking pulleys. It’s not even close to the same thing.

Fish? Underwater mammals?

Oh look, someone still thinks Pascal’s Wager holds water

Makes perfect sense.

Police exist to protect capital. That simple.

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They can’t even form basic logical opinions anymore.