• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      hes a faux chatholic, became one to get elected by appalachians apparently. and he was handpicked by anti-christ thiel.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    he is death after all demostrating by reaping the pope. and death is one of the herald of the apocalypse, and strongest of the 4 horsemen.

    what better way to demostrate by reaping the soul of a holy person.

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    Because MAGA hates this cunt, and he wants to run for president in 2028. He is going after a group even worse than MAGA - American faux Christians.

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    We’ve known for years that these Nationalist Christians wanted to bring about the end times, they’re just finally at the point where they can finally say it out loud and not have to tap dance around it.

    Fucking Nat-Cs, always have to make the world worse so they can get to the end of their fairy tale (despite knowing that they’ll be left behind because they are the most unchristian people of all)…

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      Look, I understand the concern.

      But these guys are actually a death cult. Just like Nazis were. Maybe we should, you know, point out that the rapists are murderers too.

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        Yeah, and that starts with holding them to account, there doesn’t work if

        So stop defending President pedophile

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          At this point I don’t think the files would change anything. Everyone already suspects they are rapists and their followers have proven time and time again that they are willing to turn a blind eye to any and all deplorable behavior.

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    “I think there are things about the world that make feel like not shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us,” Vance added.

    Oh, you’re so close, J D

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      Well yeah but no

      Fundamentalist Christian extremists will happily burn the world to a crisp tpnget their imaginary Christ to come down

      These people are terrorists and they’re your government. Great job, USA

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      Upvoted but you really should take them at face value on the revelations talk. They’re not fucking joking.

      edit: JD might be lying (IMO he’s not) but his audience believe it 100% and they’re being stoked towards violence at the institutional level https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)

      When I say take them at face value, it’s cuz we’re talking about people who literally believe God will call them to genocide you. IYKYK

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        He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist. He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do. Rolling coal, probably do some nuclear sabre rattling, do some ethnic cleansing sort of thing, you know.

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          He’s not talking about what he believes, he’s a nihilist

          Respectfully disagree based on my personal experience being raised in a church that was very focused on revelations. IMO you’d have to grow up believing it yourself to understand.

          He’s saying what would have to be true to justify what he plans to do.

          Yea their logic is circular but I promise you they fucking believe this shit.

          Barring specific evidence to the contrary, both Occam & Halon’s razers apply here. It is both a simpler explanation that he believes the scriptures in his religion AND there is no malice required for stupidity to explain what he’s saying.

          I’m not saying JD is above lying to his followers and faking faith. But I am saying that I don’t think he’s smart enough to do that and he’s probably 100% serious.

          This revelations talk is conditioning them towards violence.

          https://streamable.com/2yj2tj

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              Not someone who grew up in one of those churches, but please don’t sleep on the previous person’s comment. Whether or not couch fucker believes what he says, there are more than enough idiots in their inner circle that do believe it (or are at least willing to go with it for the power) for that not to matter. And even side stepping on whether or not the people in the inner circle believe it, a fuck ton of stupid americans in bumblefuck USA absolutely do and are more than willing to partake in violence and justify it with religion or end times rhetoric, and will likely support them while they violate every maxim of christianity.

              And just to tie in a very large media story, the Nat-Cs believe that the end times will come when the jews finally have their homeland back. So support for Israel can be drummed up in bumblefuck USA by tying this to the bible and making people thing that supporting Israel in their genocide is something akin to a crusade and something that god wants them to do.

              And friend, if you don’t think they can control how a large swath of stupid christians think, look into what they thought of abortion back in the 50s and 60s, and how quickly sentiment turned when the right turned abortion into their culture war wedge issue.

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              Absolutely. I think his personal beliefs are not the dangerous part here. Its the beliefs of his cristo-fascist followers he’s tapping into that worry me.

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            you weren’t brought up by Peter Thiel, and probably didn’t go to Yale Law (no offense intended, most of us didn’t)

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              Neither were the thousands to millions of christo-fascists currently being stoked toward violence. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj

              JD believing what he’s saying is irrelevant when his audience believes it. He uses coded language that has charged meanings in Christian circles.

              EoD smart americans should not assume dumb americans don’t believe that crap. Cuz they do.

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                Of course, but that wasn’t the point.

                The point in question was that JD Vance very likely does not believe this bullshit, irrespective of what his followers believe or do

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                  that wasn’t the point.

                  But what is your point? You’ve contributed nothing to this conversation. I find your comments vapid and annoying.

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      10 hours ago

      Exactly. Vance says whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Always has, always will.

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        Like I’m not moving the goalposts here, but JD believing what he’s saying is irrelevant. He’s using coded language that is well understood in Christian circles. https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (Link valid until 41 hours after this post. Download and share plz)

        My real point, as someone raised in those circles, is that you should really fucking believe them when they tell you who they are.

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          And they’re also talking with a lot of people in Israel who really believe in that language too. Texas ain’t sending red heifers to Israel for beef.

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            texas ain’t sending red heifers to Israel for beef.

            I’m almost afraid to ask but what new hell is this?

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              Long story short, a perfect red heifer is needed to purify clergy in order for the 3rd temple to be consecrated. The only problem is that there’s kinda an important mosque sitting where that temple would be.

              Mike Johnson also all tied up in this.

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                3rd temple

                boy they really get into the apoca-fan-fic…

                and of course Johnson is wrapped up in it, he’s dumber than a box of rocks.

                thanks for the deets

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        Nope. The other way around. They’re all praying for the Rapture and the 2nd coming…which all goes hand-in-hand with the end of the world. Heaven on Earth can’t happen until God wipes the world clean, leaving only the righteous to inherit what’s left.

        This is why they support Israel unconditionally. Not because they love Jews…but because Jews need to return to Israel in order to start the final battle between good and evil. That’s how they interpret the Book of Revelations. It’s all Biblical end-times prophecy coming true, and they see it as their religious duty to make sure it all happens as predicted.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        he’s a catholic who disagrees with the pope and married an indian. I strongly suspect he’s more of a generic chirstian at heart and not beholden in any way to big C catholocism.

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          He’s not any of those things. He’s a power hungry grifter. All the Christian talk is for the marks.

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        You know here in Australia, people have tried to “cure” religions they don’t agree with. White people have tried to exterminate Aboriginal religions. Because these religions were seen as dangerous and primitive.

        Personally, I think taking people’s religions away from them on a massive population level is genocide. Aboriginal Australians have faced genocide for their religion. And to Me, this meme looks like a call to genocide.

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        They don’t know what the end times actually is/entails.

        If you ask them for a proper explanation they can not answer beyond the fairy tale that they are taught.
        But a specific thing grounded in reality they can not point to, and if they’re called evil for wanting harm on millions of people you can see them think “how do I declare the victims to be evil?”.

        I’m convinced there currently are some in the US government who are so delusional that they think they in-person are one of the four horsemen personified…

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          what the end times actually is

          You do understand all these books by enslaved Bronze-age peasant tribes are made up… right??!

          This is like saying someone doesn’t understand what the true nature of the Aveda Kevadra curse is. Or the true taste of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow man. IT’S FANFIC

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          Even worse, they don’t even have a decent definition of “God”. If they say something like that they worship “the God of Abraham” or “Yahweh” or “Jehovah”, that’s about as good as they can do to actually describe “God”, just giving it a name.

          If you ignore names and just ask them to describe “God” by its attributes, and get really into details, you’ll find that no two Christians believe in the same god, and in fact, somehow, the “God” they describe will closely reflect their own beliefs more than anything else.

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    I think there are things about the world that make feel like not shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us

    Hmmmm.

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    So if you kill yourself to go to heaven, that is a sin so you go to hell. On the other hand, if you do things to bring on the end times that’s okay. So is he saying in the first scenario you can’t fool god, but in the second you can. Time for a new god … or better yet, none at all.

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      Bringing about the end times is ALSO not allowed: “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son,[a] but the Father only…”

      These people are dangerous weirdos who don’t even read their own fucking book.

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        They intentionally don’t quote their book. Its a useful tool to draw the masses into their death cult.

        The outcome is the same whether they actually believe in the Antichrist or they’re using the language to control christian nationalists: they intend to kill millions.

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    Vance: I’m trying to focus on doing as much of God’s work as possible.

    Name one thing that he has done that the bible god wants done