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CNN asked Miller whether the Trump Administration will abide by a district judge’s order blocking the Guard’s deployment in Oregon. “Well, the Administration filed an appeal this morning with the Ninth Circuit,” Miller began. “I would note the Administration won an identical case in the Ninth Circuit just a few months ago with respect to the federalizing of the California National Guard.”
Then, Miller said: “Under Title 10 of the U.S. Code, the President has plenary authority, has—” before making an abrupt stop. Miller blinked several times, with anchor Boris Sanchez calling out his name, though he still did not respond.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenary_power
A plenary power or plenary authority is a complete and absolute power to take action on a particular issue, with no limitations.
The executive is a co-equal branch of government. We don’t do kings here. We kill kings.
We also kill Nazis. Per long tradition. We don’t debate them. We don’t platform them. Nazis are guilt free kills. Don’t even count as human.
We have never killed kings here. We also stayed out of Nazi affairs for many years. The sentiment is nice, but more than misleading. You got weird history books anon
Not only that, but we also support most dictatorships around the world, we fund genocide, overthrow democratically elected governments, and assassinate people like Lincoln, JFK, & MLK.
Oh shoot you’re right, I guess we should all relax and get back to work
THAT’S the spirit!!
I thought that’s what I read, thanks for the reality check
Maybe he meant Martin Luther King?
Goddamn, that hits hard.
Dont forget Rodney King
He wasn’t killed… barely.
I thought these words exactly but felt they may be too harsh lol
We don’t do kings here. We kill kings.
Literally never killed a king in their history. The closest they got was killing aboriginal chieftains. Muricans just got salty because the King of England refused to let them colonize the native tribes in the great lakes region (which the crown had declared a self-governing protectorate). Americans declared a revolution and cloaked it in jingoistic hoopla about liberty. They also tried (and failed) to enlist Quebec to join them.
Hey to be fair the US government has killed 1 king in their history, it was just MLK…
Love it. Sincerely I do.
American: kill kings!
European: amateurs.
Lol.
Muricans just got salty because the King of England refused to let them colonize the native tribes in the great lakes region (which the crown had declared a self-governing protectorate).
Wait wait wait. The Brits were the good guys (in this one, very specific, instance)?
Not the only time. Another example is the West Africa Squadron, where a small part of the British Navy tried to block all slave traffic coming out of West Africa.
The UK has done some insanely horrific things, but it does have some legitimate bright spots in there.
Broken clock, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Proclamation_of_1763
[Historians] have argued that colonial resentment of the proclamation contributed to the growing divide between the colonies and the mother country. Some historians say that even though the boundary was pushed west in subsequent treaties, the British government refused to permit new colonial settlements for fear of instigating a war with Native Americans, which angered colonial land speculators.
Don’t even count as human.
… People can be evil (and even deserve execution) without dehumanizing them. You know, the exact thing we hate them for doing?
People calling you a nazi sympathizer don’t know that most people who actively participated as members of the German nazi party were ‘normal’ people. They lived normal lives, followed the law, and existed in normal society. In reality, most people supporting our current nazi problems will need to be deprogrammed and forcibly pulled back into an accepting society. Its what happened in Germany, not many nazis were charged with crimes.
Similar shit happened in Indonesia after the genocide. People had to go back to being neighbours with somewhat typical people who were former state sanctioned serial killers and enablers. Germany tried to deprogram the youth in the '50s, but yeah. Didn’t stick, for various reasons. Harsh reality.
Still, no society has recovered from fascist or similar regimes without at least some targeted pruning of the tree of life. Putin SHOULD obsess about what happened to Gaddafi and the like. Society has to remember or, well, here we are again.
Are you agreeing with them? If not, It’s really just the two weirdos ITT who cannot fathom the idea that bad people are still people.
Nah, Nazis are inhuman garbage
Nazis are human garbage.
As humans, they have human rights… But they also should be punished for their violations of human rights. The law, as it currently stands, is not fulfilling its purpose of punishing bad actions. Thus, it is up to us to punish them.
Punch a Nazi today!
They love that you say this.
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You’re defending nazis right now. Reflect on that. Be better.
A lazy and false statement that even the slightest of thought rips into a million little pieces. You’re advocating for conditional dehumanization. Something that actually should provoke reflection.
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A Nazi is a normal human being with a set of particularly bad convictions.
But same as nobody is born a Nazi, nobody needs to die a Nazi.
This is fundamentally different from cockroaches, who are all cockroach from conception to death.
And this is the poison that ruins societies.
From my interactions with leftists, they think that the Nazis’ only crime was wearing the wrong uniform. The oppression, tyranny and murder? Totally okay. They were just wearing the wrong symbols while they did it.
RED ALERT
YOU HAVE JUST MADE A PROFOUNDLY STUPID COMMENT AND SHOULD BE RIDICULED THEN IGNORED
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Yeah? Name one leftist who thinks the Nazis only crime was wearing the wrong uniform. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
The comment at the top of this thread that encouraged the exact same kind of dehumanization and murder that the Nazis based their movement on? Can you not read?
The Nazis based their movement on the belief that it’s OK to kill nazis…?
Well if they followed their leader…
I have no clue what you’re talking about but I’m sick of people grouping others together and then raging about groupthink that doesn’t even necessarily exist.
I group together those espousing a particular sentiment and that makes sense to me. They told me what they believe.
It’s another totally pointless shitty waste of time to say “-ists are all [horrible thing]!!”
Fuck that shit.
I know a lot of other social medias censor this idea, but throughout history, a lot of human rights only came about when people rose up to defend it.
I know that Americans will push back eventually, and I’vegot faith but, but the rest of the world is watching and wondering why you haven’t yet.
We are pushing back, it’s just the US is far more spread out then European countries and protests are purposely not being covered in mainstream media. Not to say we couldn’t be better or doing more.
“our country is too big and no one is leading us”
That’s it. That’s the reason. According to Americans on Lemmy/PieFed/Mastodon/Reddit is the drive to DC is too long. Regardless of where you live. Live in New York? it’s a long drive. California? it’s a very long drive. Maryland? way too long. Also unlike other countries Americans need a schedule and a specific time and date to do it. Other countries will just hit the streets with no planning, no times or dates, they just know something bad is happening and will leave their homes and protest. Americans don’t do that. they NEED someone else to organize for them to tell them something bad is happening and to let everyone know about it on this specific date,at this specific time and to please register online to confirm your attendance.
The actual answer? deep down, the vast majority of americans simply don’t care.
And don’t forget, the “doing something” has to be fun and entertaining and kid-friendly and there needs to be a convenient Starbucks nearby. Warm & sunny too, because who wants to be uncomfortable outside “doing something?”
Rest of the world: Why haven’t you started the bloodiest civil war killing the most Americans of any conflict ever since the last one?
Americans:
Not enough people are starving
The US has put or helped keep more kings in power than they have taken out of power. Also, I would like to point out that King George III did not die in the American revolutionary war.
The intolerance will be met with equal intolerance.
Indeed, America accepted thousands of Nazis with open arms, from Germany after the second world war. That worked out well.
Tbf they made some damn good rockets once you got them to shut up about the whole antisemitism thing.
The US probably wouldnt have made it to the moon without having them. History is far more complex and nuanced than we often make it out to be
True, though they weren’t all rocket scientists.
The French killed kings and nazis. The British killed kings and nazis. The Polish killed kings and nazis. The Russian killed kings and nazis. And replaced their king with fucking Stalin. The Canadians rebelled and won against a king(winning the right to create their own government) and killed nazis. (You get the idea)
The US was tricked by their upper class into rebelling, and then replaced the king with a pseudo-king. The US started WW2 helping the Nazis
We kill kings.
Are you in France? The last king killed by his own subjects was French king King Louis XVI. After that it was probably Tsar Nicholas II of Russia if you count him as a king. America sought independence from monarchy and never took the war to Britain.
I get what you’re saying, but I think the whole “mindless, indiscriminate killing of people against us” narrative fits far better with people who fasten political flags to the beds of their pickup trucks and collect guns so they can shoot democrats alongside Jesus come Armageddon day.
It’s not that I think there shouldn’t be capital punishment for heinous actions, but with both political sides calling each other “nazis” and the right saying the left is violent while ramping up violence, we have to be better about rhetoric and the chance for ambiguity. Lets get better.
That’s the story you’ve been told, it is in fact false. You save and help Nazis flee prosecution and the only kings you ever killed were the original inhabitants of America that you genocided in your manifest destiny.
No amount of chest thumping is going to erase the fact you’re already living in the 4th reich and the best you can do about it is shoot some random blogger in the neck. And then you have the gall to ridicule the French…
edit: Like someone mentioned below, the only king you killed was MLK.
But… but… ”zey vere just folloving orders”
Punch-a-nazi would be a great substitute for whack-a-mole BTW
Nazis are certainly human. Not disagreing with the rest of your statements but denying reality doesn’t help anything.
People who refuse to relinquish Nazism need to be publicly hanged. Nazism is intentionally harmful.
Did you even read that?
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Not a glitch, this is how they introduce these ideas and shift the Overton window more right.
This is nothing new, Miller has said himself the president has absolute power. We’re just all transfixed now because Miller fell down a Khole or his amphetamines started to wear off in the middle of an interview.
If it takes this kind of spectacle to make people aware of how bad this administration is, we’re so fucked.
If it takes this kind of spectacle to make people aware of how bad this administration is, we’re so fucked.
They still won’t be aware.
That had nothing to do with drugs, he realized what he said out loud and pretended his video feed froze
He hasn’t said anything new or surprising though, he’s said all this before multiple times, they don’t have shame or even worry about consequence for the things they say, if they did we wouldn’t have this mess. That’s what I’m saying, it’s wild how naive everyone is.
If it takes this kind of spectacle to make people aware of how bad this administration is, we’re so fucked.
We’re worse than fucked, because even this won’t be enough for people
They’ve been jabbing about the Unitary executive theory since W
The Almighty White Worm has spoken!
CNN edited their YouTube clip of the interview and removed the part in question. Someone on Reddit clipped it though: https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/1o0x5ib/miller_glitches_while_falsely_claiming_title_10/
CNN is state media. It cannot be trusted.
Yes. All corporate media is state media. None of it can be trusted.
It’s a sad state of affairs when you’ll get better information from Teen Vogue than any organization in the White House Press Pool.
with ellison ready to take over it, after MALONE.
Keep bending the knee and licking the boots, CNN.
For real, this is literally the moment that all trust in the media collapsed.
After the last two years of genocide justification and lying for Israel I am surprised anyone had any trust left.
Apparently Reddit is working hard to try to scrub that off their site as well. The boot licking continues.
Not that hard. Even Kimmel had it on and only focused no the glitch out.
I don’t know how to download videos off Reddit. Hope someone grabs it.
yt-dlp works with Reddit. There’s also cobalt, which is a web-based, general purpose media download tool. There are multiple instances of it that people host themselves too.
Redreader works alright.
So I looked it up and title 10 is all the rules that govern the US armed forces. The president of the United States can trivially be shown to not have plenary authority by the simple fact that the constitution exists. That is in fact the entire point of the constitution, it ensures nobody in the United States has plenary authority. Even title 10 disproves that as it sets out the rules that US armed forces must operate under.
Didn’t you get the news last week? Clarence Thomas issued a new ruling that declared the constitution unconstitutional. Apparently they didn’t have the right to write it so he nullified it.
Well, Thomas stupidly just removed his own authority to declare things unconstitutional, automatically reinstating it
Well well how the turntables…
The constitution is a social contract. Since such a contract can serve as the basis for all society, then the legitimacy of all contractual obligations are linked to the legitimacy of this one, that ensure we have rights and freedom in order to enter into contractual obligations.
Since the representatives of the state founded on the constitution have broken the social contract, then all contracts are null and void.
Correct.
You say so knowingly, without elaborating, like a true sage /jk
You already elaborated.
Isn’t law just a social contract then‽
Law is a human invented word in the English language. It can describe many things. One is natural law or the laws of physics. These laws have nothing to do with a social contract.
We can formulate socially governing laws derived from natural laws confirmed by mathematics. Those laws would be more reliable.
Ultimately, any laws governing human society are reliant on people subscribing to said laws. If a cohort decides not to follow those laws, then they cannot expect to benefit from them.
That sort of relationship has yet to be properly formalized and has a significant lag time.
They’re working off of a more creative interpretation it seems.
Suspicion? This has been the goal of right wing and conservative think tanks for decades now. The end goal of conservatism is monarchy. “Plenary Authority” is just a fancy way of saying “The King can do anything he wants”.
It took that for someone to become “suspicious” of the Trump Administration while Trump has been talking about dictatorship for years now … what a joke.
It didn’t take it for us, but to his supporters, it apparently still isn’t enough.
ITT : Lots of very suspect defense of nazis.
Right?! Fuck these Nazis, and fuck you if you have any sympathy for them, you’re fucking evil too
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Yeah, they’re humans making nazi decisions, fuck em
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The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Yeah, I’m disturbed alright
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Some folks have chosen to opt out of the social contract and deny others their right, let alone, safety to exist. What comes back to them, is on them. I won’t take pleasure, or offer them comfort, when those choices come back on them.
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Yes yes, and Hitler was probably very nice to his pet dog, but still fuck that guy and we’re all glad he’s dead.
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Of course it wasn’t a glitch. CNN is no longer trustworthy, not even a little bit.
Maybe they meant Miller glitched out, because if you watch the video, he looks like a robot trying to process an infinite loop when he says it.
This is like accidentally outing your fetishes/porn habits when you’re typing in the address bar with somebody next to you and blaming viruses or somebody else using your computer.
Mr. Miller: It’s okay to get off on Trump’s plenary authority, but please try to keep it to yourself instead of forcing it upon society.
This reminds me of…
They don’t even mention it on their website lol. A major piece of news occurred live on their airwaves, and the bloodhounds at CNN didn’t smell a thing! Nothing to see here, folks! Just a slow day in the newsroom. It’s nauseating and ominous as hell.
Never really was, either. Cable News Network exists not to perform real journalism but to sell premium cable packages and ad slots for Cash4Gold
There was a pretty solid illusion or at least a silver lining we could point to, but I digress.
Have I Got News For You on CNN manages to sneak in some real news amongst all the joking around
I mean is it not common knowledge at this point that Republicans are fascists and are planning to turn America into an authoritarian state and Americans are too weak and servile to do anything about it?
I thought it was pretty obvious by now.
No. Republicans are fascists who are planning to make America somewhat more universally authoritarian than it always has been. 30-40% of Americans are white supremacists who think this is great. The rest are split between people who don’t know anything that’s happening, those who think that 2008 was a reasonable level of fascism and we should try to stay somewhere near there, and those who don’t want fascism at all. (This list is ordered from largest to smallest.)
He’s saying Trump is the Fuhrer
I hope someone is planning to spin up a new House Un-American Activities Committee to deal with these shit stains when this is all over.
Very optimistic that you think it will end. I like your energy my friend.
you miss understand, they have already decided who is un-American and are enforcing their policy.
Chat, is this AI?
And by that I mean Miller himself. Is he a robit.
What’s a robit?
Its just a way some people say robot.
Often older folks or with regional accents.
Guy obviously can’t deal with continuing a conversation while someone is chewing him out in his earpiece. Makes Dubya look like a master orator.
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