The car will still work if you take the radio out or put a faraday cage around it, maybe that’ll become a thing in the future, but that might fuck with the paid charging infrastructure for EVs. Doesn’t impact gas.

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You might be right, but I don’t think it’ll be because their cars are the easiest to hack, it’ll be because they have the most cars out there capable of doing this and it’d be more impactful attack if successful.

(edit: Also they’d be able to exert the most control on their cars with the software/sensors available today at scale. E.g they could more easily have the car drive around until it finds a pedestrian to hit)

(edit: Further, you can make the most changes to a Tesla as they have one of the more (or probably most) advanced OTA update capabilities)

They are definitely a prime target.

It’s not that simple though.

Steam doesn’t suffer a piracy problem because what they offer and the cost they offer it at outweighs the DRM, and there are certain things you can’t do on the pirated copy because of the DRM (online play / friends / social stuff)

If suddenly valve decided not to do any DRM and the games could be freely copied, played online and use their friend services, of course they’d have a piracy problem. Of course I’d share a copy to all my friends, who would all do the same. (edit: and at that point it’s not even piracy anymore, it’s just sharing with friends because you aren’t circumventing anything)

Valve has found a sweet spot in this regard, but the DRM is important to their success, but we don’t have ownership. We can also solve the ownership problem now in the future or at small/medium scale now…

I know the majority of you hate Tesla, but security is something they do take more seriously. They even take part in pwn2own to help find vulnerabilities.

All auto manufacturers should be taking part in that.

Nothing like winning a car to get people to try and break into it publicly.

Edit: Also details on the 2025 event in January just recently announced. https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/blog/2024/9/23/announcing-pwn2own-automotive-for-2025

Oh, well that’s a great warning. Glad they put that there.

And ya I already use signal.

Not that I DMd people, but I don’t think I knew that, so that’s good to know.

But also don’t mistake a not for profit as not being able to do something to aquire money to help pay for itself or the salaries of it’s people. They could absolutely be looking for ways to monetize this to a certain extent. A not for profit is not a charity.

I worked at a company that handled sensitive data and we always had to pay special attention to logs in code reviews to make sure someone wasn’t inadvertently logging something that could potentially be private.

What makes you so sure that the person hosting your instance isn’t monetizing it or trying to find a way to monetize it in the background?

Maybe they’re selling all these posts and DMs to OpenAI?

fair

The pop up is slightly delayed as well, and I think its very intentional so you turn it on and then start doing an action and select something, only to select the update.

So the problem being they’re probably holding their breath which keeps the c02 in which causes the panic and fighting.

They do seem to be the best of the implementations, but I really don’t see how we can just move past it. You can’t stop regular digital items from being copied and distributed for free, it’s simply not possible. Making digital items that couldn’t be duplicated was exactly what Bitcoin originally solved. It wasn’t possible until 2009.

At least with tokenization you own access to that game now if it was done right, and steam knows you didn’t pirate it and they got paid for it. Just because it’s tokenized doesn’t mean they did it right though. You could still do it and make it as terrible as existing DRM.

Edit: And what steam does is provide an easy to access and SAFE game. We could make safe games as well by providing cryptographic proofs for the game. They just can’t make something like that freely available without being paid somehow. And then of course someone could alter the game to remove the DRM and host it again, but now you’re into the is it safe area again, because it won’t be cryptographically signed as valid.

You can have everything steam has and still have a tokenized license that gives you ownership.

We can own digital things as long as they let us properly download them. If you pay for a mp3 and have the actual mp3 file that you can do whatever you want with it, I’d say you own that.

They don’t let us download everything though because digital things can just be copied and freely distributed, so there’s often DRM.

Imagine if steam sold games and you got a full no drm copy of the game that didn’t require any hacks to make playable, no concern about viruses from shady distributions etc. People buy steam games because it’s easy, they have great sales making games cheaper, its safe, and they have all the other things like steam friends, chat etc.

But if steam just gave everyone a digital copy with no DRM that you could verify was safe and steam compatible, their sales would drop and more people would pirate.

So its a balance between DRM which steam is, and actual ownership.

By having something digital that represents digital ownership that cant be duplicated, you can solve the problem.

Steam could just publicly host the game for download but it only runs if you own the license. The license can’t be take away from you and is freely transferable.

For games, the problem is still online games. I’m not sure that’s ownable unless they also let you host your own servers and its bundled in the game. But for offline games it’s possible.

NFT are more than just digital art. It’s a token that represents a specific thing and have been around since the very early days if Bitcoin. I believe it was colored coins that were first implementation, but maybe something came before even that.

They could be a stock certificate for a company, a license to a game, a concert ticket, a house key.

In that case, may as well just pirate everything!

Thats not how it’d work. The blockchain will generate the NFT but the NFT can authorize itself. You can do offline signatures that will prove you own the token and thus own the media. It doesn’t need to check in with anything online to pass a validity check once it’s issued.

The token is unique, the media is just out there exactly like it this today. How many billions of copies of songs have been download from iTunes?

Edit: And layer 2s will be able to handle 100,000 TPS or more in the future for the initial issuance. I didn’t say today, I said where the future is heading. That’s 3,153,600,000,000 transactions a year, and it’s going to be more than that.

And even then, if the company decided to not sell smth anymore or stop supporting it or they went out of business you still wouldn’t be able to get things legally a lot of the time.

I don’t think that’s an issue unless it’s an online service that they host the servers on, but for something like a book, even if they decided to stop selling it (aka minting new NFT tokens to access it) all the existing tokens would still work and trading would work.

We can’t really do anything about online services though unless a law requires a company to allow self hosting if they close down, which would be a great law to have.

Edit: just to clarify further, the token is the ownership at this point. Having the protected content anywhere on the internet and downloading it without a token isn’t theft, it’s just there and legal, inaccessible without the token. It could just be on a public torrent for download from day 1 for anyone to download with or without a token. Also the content could even link to the smart contract to purchase a token to unlock it. So a movie player would see a unauthorized movie with a buy now button. It could even be a token that unlocks it for a 24h rental. Unless the media owner kills the contract intentionally, it’ll be purchasable as long as the blockchain it’s on exists.

I wish this were true, but unless companies were forced to stop licensing then they’ll never do that

I think we’ll see someone experiment with this eventually even without a law. There’s a lot of upset out there about not being able to resell digital content and it suddenly being taken away.

Made the motherfucking “Gun flies to MRI” TV trope a certified reality. This is a thing that verifiably happened now.

All those writers and directors who were laughed at and mocked have now been vindicated.

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