The thing I’ve been repeating? We literally hanged people exactly like Charlie Kirk for crimes against humanity at Nuremberg. If Kirk were alive in 1930s Germany, he would have been challenging people to debate him about “the Jewish question.”

If the shooter turns themselves in, do they get the money? OwO

Watching the media cow tow to white nationalism has been a really dark moment the last few days. The context everyone needs to know about Kirk is that we literally executed people like him at Nuremberg for doing the exact same type of thing he did. Except back then the debate bros were holding vigorous discussions about “the Jewish question.”

Why were they kangaroo courts? They were established by an International Charter.. You can point out that the Nazi’s crimes weren’t illegal under German law, but who cares? Multiple jurisdictions can exist simultaneously. Sure there’s an element of ex post facto in making crimes against humanity a legal charge after the fact, but the ex post facto protections are something we democratically agreed to adopt. And maybe we can just agree to not let genocide be subject to ex post facto protections under international treaty. Yes, this was all just made up by people, but ultimately all laws and legal systems were first dreamed up by people doing a lot of improvisation.

Sure. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve it. In a just world he would be tried and hanged. Unfortunately we do not live in a just world. Best we get is “those who live by the sword will die by the sword.”

Of course it was deserved. We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing the exact same thing Kirk spent his whole life doing.

Seriously. The idea that they’re just words and they have no meaning is historically ignorant. We executed Nazi propagandists, even if they never killed anyone with their own hands. Inciting others to genocide is still a crime against humanity.

Kirk was openly calling for the extermination of a group of people that represents the same portion of the US population as the Jews did in Germany prior to WW2. It is not all hyperbole to place Kirk’s death in its proper historical context. We literally executed people for doing what Kirk made his whole career doing.

Sure. Even if the raw numbers said that say, trans people are 1% of the population, and 1.5% of shooters, that would still be a meaningless figure. The sample size is too low to make any meaningful conclusion.

But the point is even if you don’t apply statistics, even using the sample we have, trans people are vastly under-represented among shooters. We represent about 1% of the population and 0.1% of shooters. You don’t even need to apply statistics. The numbers on their face show that there is zero evidence that trans people are over-represented.

Now, statistically, I would say that there is insufficient evidence to suggest that the rate of trans shooters is any different from the overall population, higher or lower. But there is less than zero evidence that trans people are over-represented.

The trans shooter myth is simply blood libel.

It was more anti-trans hate mongering. 2 or 3 trans shooters out of 5700 is nothing. If you can whittle down the number of “mass shootings” to just a handful of incidents, can make it seem like trans people are vastly over-represented among school shooters.

He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.

I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They’re guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.

At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why.

Julius Streicher was also a human being. He was hanged at Nuremberg for the same kind of hate-mongering that Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of crimes against humanity.

Neither did the children and families of Kirk’s numerous victims.

You’re right. He wasn’t Hitler. He was Julius Streicher.

Charlie Kirk’s life ended on September 10, 2025 shot in the neck by an assassin’s bullet.

Julius Streicher met his end on October 16, 1946, hanged from the neck in Nuremberg Prison.

Exactly. I’ve been saying this all day, but we literally hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of incitement to genocide.

No, he actually, absolutely, objectively did deserve to die. Maybe not by vigilante justice, but he absolutely deserved to be in the ground. The world is a better place without him in it.

Have you forgotten your history? We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. We hanged people at Nuremberg for crimes against humanity who did what Kirk did. We hanged Nazi propagandists who spent years inciting hate against the Jewish population. Kirk was absolutely guilty of incitement to genocide. He was responsible for countless deaths. He made his whole career trying to incite violence and hate against innocent people.

In a just world he would hang for his crimes. But we don’t live in a just world. The closest we get to justice is vigilante justice.

Vigilante justice is not something I welcome. But the man absolutely deserved to die. He was a mass murderer.

Obviously this was a case of vigilante justice. But the man made his whole living trying to incite genocide against innocent people. The US government just blew up a boat full of Venezuelans, murdering them without trial, on the accusation of them being drug smugglers. Our closest ally, Israel, routinely executes people without trial for doing far less than what Kirk did.

The 2nd Amendment is always cited as being to protect against tyranny. That obviously entails extrajudicial violence. If there is ever a valid use for extrajudicial violence, it’s in the prevention of genocide. The president will do all the evil he was going to do anyway. But he’s a fascist, of course he’s going to do that.

I’m sorry, but I’m not going to shed a tear for this guy. His last words were an attempt to incite violence against a minority group. If there is a Hell, he’s burning there right now.

Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. He got exactly what was coming to him.

We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. That’s the context that every discussion of Kirk’s death should begin with.

But this guy wasn’t even a tyrant. He was just a fucking pawn.

Learn your fucking history. We hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk did. Kirk was guilty of crimes against humanity. He’s guilty of incitement to genocide.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

Dangerous and addictive technologies and substances are always regulated. There’s a reason we don’t let ten year olds buy vodka.

Even in recent years the NRA has been mixed at best when it comes to minority gun ownership. Think of all those cases where a cop shoots a black man because “they thought they saw a gun.” Whenever that happens, it’s crickets from the NRA. The cops claim the right to shoot black gun owners, even just perceived black gun owners all the time. Yet the NRA rarely comments on such cases. They should be shouting from the rooftops in such cases. Why the hell does a cop seeing a gun give them permission to shoot someone?