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    The military flights cost up to $28k an hour, but it’s OK, he’s putting this all on your national debt, his giant credit card.

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          Here is the thing I don’t understand, Fuck Trump but also as a leftist I think it is a great step of honesty to rename the Department of Defense to the Department of War. I mean, yes Trump is doing it because he WANTS to embrace the military industrial complex even more but that doesn’t change the fact that the name change fits the department a lot better than the old name shrugs.

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            Oh yeah, it’s less hypocritical.

            But perhaps we’d rather it was named and acted like DoD, instead of being named DoD and acting like DoW.

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              I agree I guess I just feel like naming something a better name mostly just gives liberals and centrists the license to stop paying attention and assume things are great, so yes you are right but I genuinely think the stupidness of this move is ironically productive towards getting the average person in the US to think skeptically to some degree about the military industrial complex’s motivations and how they relate to our wellbeing…

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    The fact that people aren’t protesting this shit in the streets is a sign that this country is dead

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      People are, stop checking to see if the public is fighting or not through corporate news mediums that have a stake in making you feel like nobody is protesting…

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      Most the major news in the US is run by republican loyalists. People are protesting all this but the cameras are all pointed Charlie Kook’s memorial.

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      There are big protests in the places they’re doing the most aggressive racial profiling. It just doesnt make the national news. See this for example

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      A sign that people don’t think they have a way to fight. We don’t have any leadership, fighting under the Democrats is a waste of time that sticks your neck out without accomplishing anything. You get some real leadership and you will get fight. Until you get rid of these Democrats that see themselves as controlled opposition this is what you will get.

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        Join an ice out of x or 50501 group near you. Major political parties only cause change when they’re forced to with the ire of the general public. Should read the book “this is an uprising” by mark engler

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      To be fair the regime has been pretty brutal. The protests this summer in the big cities was met with military force.

      It’s not good signs as you say. The authoritarian regime is in full swing.

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    At least this indicates the missing people from Alligator Alcatraz are alive. And isn’t that a sentence I would very much like to never, ever say again.

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    notice how they’re sending these planes to countries that barely have an airforce to chase them the fuck away with.

    they’re sending them to places where the local governments wouldnt dare protest.

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      I don’t think you get it.

      Those govts are being paid to take those people, you think they are doing this for free? LOL! And why those particular places? While, probably hoping a lot of them just dissappear.

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    You know, the Nazis did the same with wasting valuable military resources transporting considered undesirables to be imprisoned and killed, even though they were in the middle of a war, and the logistics were badly needed to transport supply and reinforcements to the front lines. I always say fascists will always fall because they are running on emotions. So much for “facts don’t care about feelings” from MAGAts.

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      This isn’t really true. Generally, the Nazis were running trains eastward with supplies for their troops in Russia. The trains filled with victims for the camps would have otherwise returned empty. The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States for incarceration.

      As far as the expense of the Holocaust was concerned, the death camp Treblinka is pretty instructive. Treblinka operated for a period of 18 months, during which approximately 900,000 people were killed by the exhaust from a single salvaged tank engine. The camp was staffed at any one time by about 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 local civilian workers. Treblinka was an utterly trivial fraction of Germany’s overall war effort, and yet it killed a million people.

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        The difference though is that the Allies could spare more resources, while the Axis can’t. German rail lines also keep getting sabotaged and the blockade and air bombing kept the resources to fix them being disrupted or destroyed. The Allies didn’t have such issues on their end. The German trains coming from the Eastern front could have loaded up more wounded but even so, I imagine they would have more limited available train freight because of destruction.

        The anti-partisan action by the Axis also took up so much manpower that could have otherwise gone to the frontline. Not to mention that the very same people the Germans killed, could have been soldiers themselves on the side of the Axis. Many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis as liberators and could have helped the Nazis against the Soviet Union, but of course, the Nazis had a different idea. Mussolini’s fascism was mild compared to the Nazis, and he was right that the Hitler’s obsession on race is a waste of time and resources.

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          Once America got involved it was over for Germany. There is no scenario where Germany could have won with the US involved. Just fighting France and England and Russia they absolutely would have won. Could have anyway. How many people did the Russians sacrifice to get rid of the Germans, 17 million? Guys behind the lines to shoot anybody that Retreats from their position for any reason.

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            Guys behind the lines to shoot anybody that Retreats from their position for any reason.

            That’s not what the purpose of blocking brigades was. Casualty rates were roughly similar between Germany and the USSR, if you don’t include civilians.

            There’s a lot of fictions made up by nazis about the eastern front that western historians took seriously until the Soviet archives from the time were made public, that we still see in Hollywood and pop culture, like machine-gunning their own troops, sending soldiers without weapons, and human-wave “tactics”.

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              That is not a piece of history that has ever been up for debate that I have seen, nor one that the Soviets have tried to hide or Russians have tried to deny. It was trotsky’s idea, and in the Ukraine war they may have dusted it off to some degree.

              So I don’t know where you are getting that from but they absolutely were known for shooting anybody that retreated from their position no matter what the circumstance. They lost 17 million people.

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                Why not the wikipedia article? It cites statistics and primary sources.

                Their job was to gather troops from shattered divisions so they could be reformed, and arrest ones who were refusing to fight so they could be tried later.

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                  Or the hundreds of history books it is written in, I don’t know what your recent iteration of Wikipedia says, But that has been the history, you are the first person I have ever heard challenging it. If that is something that you got off of a recent Wikipedia edit, I would not be surprised there is some new form of revisionism going on.

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        The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States

        Well, that and the fact that it completely takes them out of the theater of war. They’re not going to be rescued and released from a camp in the middle of Montana.

        And even if a few do escape, they’re a few days walk from anywhere, and will stick out like a sore thumb if they did encounter a local.

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    At some point, other countries will stop taking these extrajudicial deportations, and guess what happens then?

    (*Spoiler: Hitler did this until other countries started refusing all the deportations. Only then did he start gassing people. This is stage 1.)

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      At some point, other countries will stop taking these extrajudicial deportations

      Yeah, no. They are being paid to accept these people and they intend to do absolutely nothing with them. just dump them out there and say “good luck”.

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        I think that when the American dollar becomes useless, these countries will be accepting the trafficked as slaves. …If they aren’t already. No decent person would send over 500 children to be disappeared.

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    Jesus f-ing Christ, it’s like inverse-slavery and America having decided to be the slave sellers this time around. Literally negotiating to work people from previously active workforces to countries they have no ties and a paper agreement of their guilt that allows them to be manhandled like slaves on the industrial scale.

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        But our courts now are so fucked that the lawyers will argue while it is cruel, it is not unusual because we are doing it all the time so therefore both of the terms of cruel and unusual aren’t met and the court has no business stepping in the way of our legitimate executive Authority.

        Disallowing courts from Nationwide injunctions was a huge decision that is not recognized as such yet, that shows you where the Supreme Court is going to allow this to go, straight into the abyss. They think the Republic is already dead and all but name.

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      Wow so brave. Buy a rifle and learn how to use it, memes aren’t revolution.

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        Why aren’t we shooting these Lemmy posts?!?!

        lol, like people can’t arm themselves whilst also taking 5 minutes to post.

        Are you eating? No! Shoot!
        Are you pooping? No! Shoot!
        Are you breathing? No! Shoot!

        Don’t reply to me, you should shoot!

        Stop doing what Lemmy is for, shoot your phone!!

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          They are literally posting a meme about asking the pedophile in chief to release the evidence in themselves. They are posting a meme about ineffective passive bullshit.

          That’s why I said what I said. I didn’t say you have to be shooting all the time, that’s a very silly interpretation.

          I’m on Lemmy, obviously, making a comment with a message: America needs a revolution, and a revolution can’t be won without guns when he releases the military on you.

          Had their message been something effective, I wouldn’t have said anything, but posting “release the files” memes on every post is not only ineffective, it’s also distracting from every awful thing he’s doing that’s more worthy of a revolution than simply being a known pedophile. He’s running the Nazi playbook page by page, you no longer have the freedom of speech, people are being sent to international concentration camps without trial, and you’re making memes to distract from what needs to happen: you need to revolt!

          An armed minority is harder to oppress, and those willing to stand up are a minority. You don’t need to shoot everything, I didn’t imply that and I’m not a violent gun nut, but you should at least know how to operate a rifle effectively and get some ammo while you can.

          Trans people are being targeted next, are you gonna protect them with “release the files” memes when the stories of what Trump is doing to them start coming out?

          That’s very brave.

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    Slaves.

    Don’t kid yourself these people are being sold as slaves. That’s why they’re being sent to these countries. We are selling slaves.

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    I guarantee the conditions at these African camps will be inhumane and murderous. They’re located in places already rife with conflict and cruelty. Places like Sudan, etc. It’s the point, to offshore human rights violations. Sounds familiar

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    So when did music magazine rolling stone become one of the more reliable sources of non music news in this country? I’m seriously asking cause it’s really strange to me. Good, but strange