• artifex@lemmy.zip
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    20 minutes ago

    Forget about the predictions and look at the growth only. It’s the legendary hockey stick. The stuff MBAs dream about. US manufacturers, engineers and the less shitty VCs should be fucking furious that they were kneecapped at every step and basically forbidden from participating in this market in any real way.

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      2 hours ago

      The predictions aren’t even doing linear regression, feels like taking 10 year old data and fitting on current trend

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        30 minutes ago

        Especially 2012-2020 seems ridiculous. “Its been an exponential growth until now but it will probably instantly stop here and stay constant”.

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    Lol what is that latest preduction? “Sure, solar production has risen like never before, but surely now the production will plateau.”

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    i wonder how this will affect the grid. it will for sure flatten out the curve during the day, maybe even leading to excess capacity we’d have to burn off. what magnitude of storage would we need to actually use all the extra power?

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      Hmmm, this has been part of the debate since solar power started up. Batteries both grid and home size are being installed all over. The cost is falling rapidly and the grid forming batteries are providing all the services of a power station.

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        there are still pretty big problems with them though, like materials and cost. i’d love it if every home could top up the grid but the forming inverters are bulky and costly for individuals. hopefully used traction batteries can start making up the difference in cost but personally i’d rather see more large-scale solutions like pumped hydro.

        also, anecdotally, as someone in a country where we were already basically fossil-free, with a 50-50 split between hydro and nuclear, installing more renewables has coincided with the grid becoming less stable. the rapid fluctuations in available power has seemingly driven up energy costs. i theorise it’s because larger variations in grid frequency is more taxing on the hardware.

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      I don’t think one really has to burn off solar capacity? Just raise the inverter input to match the voltage and no current will flow. Would be kind pointless to waste the capacity though, I think Sweden or somewhere had success with melting salt with excess power.

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        36 minutes ago

        The incoming sunlight will still get converted into electrical energy, it’s just going to get burned of right there inside the panel instead of somewhere else on the grid.

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    Are these selected bad predictions? I find it hard to believe some of them, but when they are cherry picked it would make sense.