You can block it for yourself if that works for you. You don’t have to limit other people’s options.
I can block .ml communities in my GUI. But I can’t block its users, unless I go 1 by 1. Blocking the communities is big, but not enough.
Hah! Do you really believe this would make things better? (X) Doubt
.world needs .ml else it would just become Reddit 2.0, just as boring and asinine, but without the traffic. .world is the kiddie pool… but not everyone knows how to swim, so it fills an important role!
But your logic supports .world defederating .ml so that when a user is ready to “leave the kiddie pool” they do so by moving to a wider instance, like .zip
Everyone needs a taste of anti-imperialist and non-Western takes, either for their sanity or just for their ideological development. I know Americans are gonna need them since the empire is coming home with full force, for instance. Without them, without ‘radicals’ like those in .ml, the folks will just be fed a new narrative to curtail their cognitive dissonance (it’s the most imperceptible of buzzes for the least cerebral among us but it’s still there) and they’ll eat it up because that’s all they’re exposed to. So, no, they should be connected, for the sake of exposure. It’s important too for those more .ml-coded to read, post and quickly check the downvote/upvote ratio in .world just like it was/is on big subreddits to get a feel of what the average literate Westerner, who at least considers discussion important (better than your average American, for instance), is thinking/has been fed recently.
Lol, Tankies just simp for authoritarian regimes like Russia and NK that claim to be communistic.
If you want to pull people to your political side, then you can do so without relying on misinformation and conspiracy theories. Which is unfortunately not what the admins of .ml have chosen to do.
I think they are saying it’s important that ML people see more nuanced takes. Though without a coherent paragraph structure it’s difficult to tell.
They’re not here to see “more nuanced takes” nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can’t even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.
I’m not agreeing with them. I’m just trying to do a translation
Silly comes in different shapes, but the imperial narrative will almost always be untrue and always serve immoral interests!
After lemm.ee went down I joined ml because it was the largest instance 😔
I didn’t know the backstory
I definitely didn’t know how heated people were towards .ml when I joined. istg I’m not a tankie.
Quick, say something bad about Russia! 😀
fuck Putin, slava Ukraini!
Oh yeah? Prove it, cowboy! 🧐
Lol it’s ok, they do things purposefully like that to an extent to get that result. Like if you go to Lemmygrad or Hex’s homepage its quite clear you’re somewhere weird that needs further investigation.
You go-to lemmy.mls homepage and it looks like a normal “privacy focused” instance. Until you innocently comment in support of Ukraine or something and find yourself being dunked on and banned for supporting a “Nazi regime”
Just like how NATO is a defensive alliance
What would you guys even talk about?
bicker* :D
Idk memes n stuff
A lot of the people giving ML a bad reputation came over from Hexbear after they were defederated by almost everyone, I suspect the angry commies would just create a new account on another instance.
And? Better to let them have to engage as a normie instead of having an entire instance astroturfing their BS.
I’d rather they stay on ML, that way I can block the instance and never hear from them.
Thank you for being the voice of reason. You may not want to hear from socialists because you’re a fake CIA liberal, but other people deserve to hear our message and to be banned by our great admins
Honestly .ml and .world deserve each other. Sh.it.just.works too, most common in my blocked user list.
What did we do?
We exist.
Nah, probably because some people find the url funny and annoy people with that account.
Be bigger than them. Probably sees your instance as some sort of threat. They always shit on the big instances, I’ve seen Hex users refer to SJW as “Shit Just Stinks” before and they were celebrating the .ee shutdown. They consider .world some sort of right-wing instance run as a CIA/fed psyop
But they’re a dbzero user, not an ML
Edit: I guess those aren’t mutually exclusive
Do these people not ever talk to anyone in real life? How do you arrive at thinking all real humans are Marxists/Leninists?
You mean Marxist-Leninists. Marxists/Leninists would be people who are either Marxists or Leninists, and as a Marxist-Leninist, I’m opposed to both. Marx was an idiot, he said “workers of the world unite” like he’d never heard of Communism In One Country. And Lenin was a counterrevolutionary who wanted the vanguard to work with the support of the workers. Marxism-Leninism, a political philosophy invented by our great leader Joseph Stalin, is far better than either Marxism or Leninism.
came here to make the exact same 1st statement. .world is quite a bully friendly instance.
Just look at my modlogs from them. Feds through and through.
I know nothing irt sh.itjust.works
sky traffic? wow so cool
You sound like a communist. I hate communists, because they think we can just get rid of the state after we seize the means of production.
Yeah, Hexbear and Lemmygrad are instant blocks. For .ml, you either joined on the wrong instance or are too deep into communist dreams
Nobody told me all this when I signed up. I was simply instructed to pick an instance, and I did.
I did the same, but I never had any negative interactions on .ml tho. The folks over on Hexbear are a different kind of strange, but harmless in the end, and of course you regularly read bullshit on all instances, but it’s just different tastes of shit, the ammount stays the same. After I switched from Reddit to Lemmy I started to encounter such a plethora of different opinions, it’s insane! :D If the deal is that from time to time I have to tolerate some idiot picking a fight about communism or Russia or Gaza or China etc., I gladly accept. One Thing you really have to give too all the tankies is that (on average) they are far more likely to cite sources for their claims. Do they do it so you can learn, or to smugly proof a point? I don’t care
This is one of the downsides to Lemmy, you’re expected to understand what the hell an instance is before you even use the platform.
Well, luckily, you can make an account elsewhere and not have people assume you’re an asshole because you associate (unknowingly) with assholes
This is, why Lemmy will probably never be successful. People are told to choose any instance and they choose the biggest ones, because that’s also probably the one with the most content and activity. And after that other people will tell them they made a bad choice and it’s their own fault.
Even the devs are fucking tankies. I’m thinking of moving to PieFed and hope for the best. Been hopping websites all my life anyway.
E: To the people downvoting, here you go: https://lemmy.world/post/29072279
Dessalines is a lead developer of Lemmy-UI.
Thankfully we can advise people to join piefed now
I’m pretty sure I used the word “unknowingly” there, meaning that they’re not to blame for the first choice, merely for continuing to do so now.
No. I don’t think a group of bad actors should kill an instance. We all have so many tools to ignore people or entire instances.
What if the bad actors are admins?
I think even then it’s easy for us to block them. This is why I really liked lemm.ee
I had the power to see everything. If an entire group was heinous, it was my choice to never see it again, not someone else.
.ml is the “bad actor” in this case for one, and for two, one of those tools is defederation. Nobody is talking about forcing .ml wholly offline.
Grad and hex are perfectly alive even with most of the network defederating from them.
