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They’re not here to see “more nuanced takes” nor they care about them. They are here to brigade posts, spread propaganda and make any discussion a pain. You can’t even imagine how often tankies tried to tell me the history of my country is fake and they know the ultimate truth about it all, way better than the people who actually lived that history.

Everything is skewed, even the measured studies. Most insecure people won’t go to a literal dick measuring contest. Which means even the measured ones trend “upwards” of the actual average.

You are not recalling it correctly.

It is not a “polak joke” in any way, but you do you.

Jesus christ, yes, there are no jalapenos in the pastry. Because there are wasps on it. Making it “spicy”. What your post and the petulant “hint” glosses over is the fact that it is a professional bakery selling pastries, with Polish text on it, Polish currency and Polish units on it (szt). What it glosses over is the fact that had the text been in German, it would’ve been a German spicy pastry. Had it been in Greek, it would’ve been a Greek spicy pastry.

As I said, I have seen this EXACT thing hundreds of times in Poland, it isn’t anything new and it isn’t a “haha Polak so stoopid” joke.

So chill out and stop being outraged just to be outraged.

You keep trying to find a justification for wishing someone death and jumping through multiple hoops to explain it to convince yourself you are justified. There is no war without hate.

There is no joke, the text is in Polish and this happens all the time in bakeries with sweet shit laid out like this. So you want it to be a “polak joke” when it isn’t. This isn’t someone being racist / nationalistic / making this about haha those stupid Poles, this is literally a bakery in Poland with wasps on it, which isn’t uncommon to see.

The great depression has never starved millions of Ukrainians to death.

You gave me a singular anecdote from a state that didn’t exist for even three years.

If someone gives you an example of a communist country and then you go “no no that’s not communism” when in fact yes, it was communism, because otherwise as you yourself said “no country in the last 2000 years was communist” then that’s the true scotsman.

Cool. Yet you are ignoring the very tiny fact that collective farms started famines. They didn’t “just underperform”.

And yet people work in huge corporations and those are succeeding fine. Yet the collective farms that I mention led to famines and underperformed severely.

“I don’t believe your country was under communism, that’s not real communism” is EXACTLY the scotsman fallacy. But by all means, go for a lengthy post that says nothing.

It is Polish. No idea why the dude even went there, it is a Polish bakery with wasps on the food. Not uncommon to see over there with some places that are outside or keep doors open.

The text on the pastry is literally Polish. It is a pastry in a Polish bakery. You don’t need to be outraged on behalf of someone else.

No true scotsman fallacy. I could say that no country was under ideal capitalism so you can’t criticize it either. You have to look at reality, not make believe nations that never existed.

And yet over here it is exactly what happened. So we have 3 years during a civil war, and 60 years of a failed state.

Yeah, people didn’t. They didn’t give a shit about the “collective” farms. They worked because they were forced to and fucked it up for everyone because there was no difference between giving it your all and slacking off. Hundreds of microfarms worked better than one large collective one because they didn’t think it was “ours” they thought it was “nobodys”.

I have never been in that situation so I don’t know. Also it is irrellevant to what we are talking about.