• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    This is free-speech absolutism, you guys!

    Also, even though we are actually trying to cancel all real comedy, we legalized comedy again, because prior to Taco, no one ever punched down!

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      I don’t recall allowing it. I only recall waking up every day and doing personal hygiene and getting dressed and eating breakfast and going to work and going to the gym and coming home and where the hell in my daily survival routine can I control whether or not the president of the United States allows me to have free speech?

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        Sounds like you had a nice comfortable day. That’s what I figured.

        Wouldn’t want to risk that comfort, right? Sounds like you’re willing to put up with quite a lot in order to remain comfortable.

        You’re allowing it every day you aren’t a threat to them.

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        8 hours ago

        You individually? No

        Americans collectively? They elected the fucker. They allowed the system to degenerate to the point where a plurality could install him in a place with such extensive powers.

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    It was a stupid way for him to word that (no surprise, literally everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid), but I just want to point out that in the context of what he’s saying, what he intended to convey is that he got rid of the “freedom of speech” defense specifically for flag burning. Which… he didn’t. But he’s trying to by writing yet another executive order to instruct the DoJ to prosecute flag burners. Because, you know… a plague of flag burning is among the biggest problems facing our nation today.

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    Nah, Kamala had a stance on Palestine therefore this is the okay alternative. /s

    Good thing that situation is completely resolved now /s

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      Two thirds of registered voters didn’t vote for Harris yet some people only want to criticize a tiny sliver who were (de)motivated by a damn genocide. That says an awful lot about your priorities. I’m almost starting to wonder if this isn’t an AIPAC thing.

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      God, get over it, kamala lost because she couldn’t get people to actually vote. Just like Hillary. Same shit would have happened to Joe if he stayed in the race. Kamala lost because the party fucking sucks so hard that they can’t out message the fucking GOP.

      The election was a year ago, stop bitching about how nobody voted because Palestine. If you don’t like it, fucking do something about it.

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        19 hours ago

        It was so bad that we had to make the Palestinians suffer more by letting a fascist win instead.

        GO AMERICA!!!

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          The media is mostly controlled by republicans and anti-left billionaire centrists, so yes msnbc wants you to think people who care about gaza are the only people responsible for the last election just like they want you to believe that trans people “going too far” are why gavin newsome will lose the general election in 2028 (despite a large portion of democrats being LGBTQ voters and him falling into many right wing pitfalls on the issue)

          I haven’t seen any math that holds up that gaza lead to Trump’s win on its own. What it likely did is create a lack of volunteers that led democrats to lose. You can’t scold people into knocking on doors, that’s a “lead by example” situation.

          Democrats stepped on a lot of fucking rakes by trying to triangulate immigration and homelessness as well as catering their messaging to (and enriching right wing media with ad revenue in the process) people who will never vote for them.

          Specifically Trump has also said Elon helped him rig the election. Elon musk and other social media owners hire people that understand psychology and will make AI clones of the most annoying people they can find and bury twitter in bots emulating those people just like they already find the people that upset conservatives the most (scientists have found conservatives overreact to disgust) and use that to ragebait them constantly. I’ve seen people calling themselves anarchists on this site who mimic media talking points about “online leftists”. Psychology works.

          Assume somebody that makes more in a day than you will make in 100 lifetimes is spending a small fraction of their money trying to make you blame the people next to you for your problems instead of themselves because billionairs are doing exactly that.

          If there are future elections any time soon, knocking on doors is going to be a lot more effective than screaming into an internet void full of chat bots that all disappear after elections. But if democrats spend all their money and goodwill buying ads on fox news again we’re doomed.

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      Trump listens to money and clout. He isn’t a Zionist.

      Biden is. Kamala would have been because she has no fucking spine.

      Can liberals stop dividing the people when the 2024 GE happened a YEAR ago and INSTEAD focus our efforts on the current fucking administration??

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      "Had a stance’ lol she’s voluntarily complicit in a fucking genocide just like the rest of the corporate dems, you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

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        you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

        Is that why I’m upset? Good thing she lost and palestinian lives are perfectly fine now.

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          Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you. Harris could have won if she’d been willing to disavow Israel’s genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that’s what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn’t give a shit about anything but getting paid.

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            Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you

            I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn’t at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.

            I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.

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              Ther were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn’t do her any favors. But even if that weren’t the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

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                being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

                Not when all the alternative was “more fucking genocide with a side of fascism”

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                being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide

                Ah, as opposed to the orange man, whose diverse issues include the disintegration of the US, the shakeup of the world economy favoring US enemies, his self-enrichment at the expense of US taxpayers, a scandalous sex trafficking cover-up, the prosecution of people of color possibly leading to a domestic genocide by white supremacists, the exascerbation of domestic violence, deepening the class divide while eradicating the middle class, the prolongation of the Russo-Ukrainian war, and, of course, that same genocide with a bonus resort for the rich while driving everyone out of Gaza! Genius fucking move right there. You did it, you saved Palestine!

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                being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

                I’ll ask again. How’s Trump doing on Palestine?

                And THAT is why single issue voting is for fucking losers.

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                  Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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            You are detached from reality mate. Neither option would have helped the Palestinian people. So there were no realistic choices on the table that would have solved that issue.

            Instead, people got sold a bag of rhetoric and lies, like the ones you’re peddling, and we got the worst case scenario by a measurement so far removed from the other candidates that it has a likely real chance to end democracy as we know it it the US. Its already happening.

            So well done, you fucking nonce.

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              So you admit the Democrats fully support the genocide in Israel and yet you’re still busy criticising individual voters for the failures of your party? And then you accuse me of lying even though you just admitted I’m right, albeit in the most backhanded way possible. You’re a spineless morally bankrupt hypocrite. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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                None of the things you said are accurate or true.

                You’re doing what’s called a loaded question plus a lot of a strawman logical fallacies here so I’m disinclined to attempt to answer you in good faith when you’ve shown none :) .

                But hey, good luck with whatever the fuck it is you seem to have going on in your head. I hope you feel like a morally superior person while trump’s administration puts migrant families into concentration camps, kills Venezuelans by the boatload, disrupts the global stability of the world, threatens our neighbors with our military, deploys our military into our cities, and funds the largest gestapo organization in world history while he keeps supplying Israel with all the weapons they need to keep bombing the Palestinians.

                You really showed us. The people who apparently deserve trump because they voted for Kamala. lol.

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                  Everything I said is entirely true, you’re just upset at being called out on your hypocrisy directly. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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                “I have morals and care about people, that’s why you deserve bad things to happen!”

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                  If you’re still making excuses for the democrats at this point you never had morals and you never gave a shit about anyone but yourself, simple as

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                you deserve Trump and worse.

                Says the dipshit who appears to have not voted in the most likely manner to prevent him from being in power because they were too busy crying about a single issue that dwarfs the situation we now find ourselves in.

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                  You don’t have a clue how I voted and you don’t actually care, you’re just looking for any excuse you can find to discredit anyone who criticizes you for being a morally bankrupt hypocritical coward, which you are lol

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            Did Donald say all those things? Is that why he is the president now?

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              Trump won by appealing to his base, who do not give a shit about those things. Harris did the exact opposite, abandoned progressives and campaigned on the continuation of a wildly unpopular status quo and outreach to conservatives/“centrists” who she had no chance with anyway. She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney, I’d absolutely love to see what sort of mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit.

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                She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney

                Yeah, she got prominent conservatives to speak out publicly against Donald Trump. That’s not exactly a bad thing. Did it swing the election? No. Did it cause her to lose? No.

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                mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit

                Can’t compete with the ones you’re pulling. Go sign up for the Olympics, you’d surely win gold.

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          Harris has been the recipient of over 9 million dollars from AIPAC. Do you think AIPAC is a charity? You think they can’t figure out whether a politician they’ve donated to is doing what they want or not? Or is this just another case of “bad when the other team does it/fine when my team does it”?

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        Goddamn.

        I literally just started internetting today and you’ve already subjected me to the dumbest comment I’ll see all day.

        I mean I guess I can see it as glass half full. It’ll only get better for the rest of the day.

        Welcome to reality where politicians can’t just break international ties with a geographically strategic ally because a bunch of people want to ignore geopolitics and operate 100% off their feelings.

        By the way, how’s Trump looking on Palestine?

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          Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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    “We took the freedom of speech away,” President Donald Trump boasted in his opening remarks at his “antifa roundtable” Wednesday.

    Wow… Despite the headline that still took me by surprise.

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    Do like Disney and instead of using actual American flags, use close approximations. Any action taken against you for burning a flag with 54 stars can net you a pretty penny in a civil suit!