The media is mostly controlled by republicans and anti-left billionaire centrists, so yes msnbc wants you to think people who care about gaza are the only people responsible for the last election just like they want you to believe that trans people “going too far” are why gavin newsome will lose the general election in 2028 (despite a large portion of democrats being LGBTQ voters and him falling into many right wing pitfalls on the issue)
I haven’t seen any math that holds up that gaza lead to Trump’s win on its own. What it likely did is create a lack of volunteers that led democrats to lose. You can’t scold people into knocking on doors, that’s a “lead by example” situation.
Democrats stepped on a lot of fucking rakes by trying to triangulate immigration and homelessness as well as catering their messaging to (and enriching right wing media with ad revenue in the process) people who will never vote for them.
Specifically Trump has also said Elon helped him rig the election. Elon musk and other social media owners hire people that understand psychology and will make AI clones of the most annoying people they can find and bury twitter in bots emulating those people just like they already find the people that upset conservatives the most (scientists have found conservatives overreact to disgust) and use that to ragebait them constantly. I’ve seen people calling themselves anarchists on this site who mimic media talking points about “online leftists”. Psychology works.
Assume somebody that makes more in a day than you will make in 100 lifetimes is spending a small fraction of their money trying to make you blame the people next to you for your problems instead of themselves because billionairs are doing exactly that.
If there are future elections any time soon, knocking on doors is going to be a lot more effective than screaming into an internet void full of chat bots that all disappear after elections. But if democrats spend all their money and goodwill buying ads on fox news again we’re doomed.
God, get over it, kamala lost because she couldn’t get people to actually vote. Just like Hillary. Same shit would have happened to Joe if he stayed in the race. Kamala lost because the party fucking sucks so hard that they can’t out message the fucking GOP.
The election was a year ago, stop bitching about how nobody voted because Palestine. If you don’t like it, fucking do something about it.
Two thirds of registered voters didn’t vote for Harris yet some people only want to criticize a tiny sliver who were (de)motivated by a damn genocide. That says an awful lot about your priorities. I’m almost starting to wonder if this isn’t an AIPAC thing.
This is pretty much what occurs to me nearly every time I see the pedo-in-chief or one of his criminal syndicate doing something incredibly illegal and/or something to make American lives miserable.
I wish I could find some more decent leftist content via podcast. Right now, I swear about most of the content coming out of TYT seems to be about Gaza.
We have crazies running the place, and it seems to be a race to whether the Seven Mountains Mandate nutjobs or the insane dipshits from the Peter Thiel/Curtis Yarvin wing get to decide how our democracy is carved up. Normal Americans, while the majority, don’t seem to matter, at all. Gaza is a thing, but it’s not the only thing. I wish that people could understand this and bring it into sharp focus.
Meidas seems to do a decent job as do a few others, but that’s via Youtube. Pod Save America is sometimes okay as is Thom Hartmann. I sometimes dip into John Fugelsang. Anyone else have any recommendations for decent podcast content that isn’t the all-Gaza show?
"Had a stance’ lol she’s voluntarily complicit in a fucking genocide just like the rest of the corporate dems, you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security
Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you. Harris could have won if she’d been willing to disavow Israel’s genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that’s what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn’t give a shit about anything but getting paid.
Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you
I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn’t at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.
I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.
I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.
Amen to that. I wish the Democrats could find their FDR again. The guy did a good job of making the case for economic populism and for the working class. It’s almost like they run away from such things now. It’d be really, really easy to garner massive support for a candidate that spoke like that guy. Ironically, he was considered the compromise by many on the left. The left would do well to remember that, too.
When people go on about term limits for Congress, I often think of this guy. This guy was popular enough to die in office, because he had 4 terms.
I think Democrats should think twice about a lot of things (term limits, blather about a “gerontocracy”, but most especially economic populism), and remember FDR.
Ther were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn’t do her any favors. But even if that weren’t the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.
When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.
I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.
being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide
Ah, as opposed to the orange man, whose diverse issues include the disintegration of the US, the shakeup of the world economy favoring US enemies, his self-enrichment at the expense of US taxpayers, a scandalous sex trafficking cover-up, the prosecution of people of color possibly leading to a domestic genocide by white supremacists, the exascerbation of domestic violence, deepening the class divide while eradicating the middle class, the prolongation of the Russo-Ukrainian war, and, of course, that same genocide with a bonus resort for the rich while driving everyone out of Gaza! Genius fucking move right there. You did it, you saved Palestine!
Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
You are detached from reality mate. Neither option would have helped the Palestinian people. So there were no realistic choices on the table that would have solved that issue.
Instead, people got sold a bag of rhetoric and lies, like the ones you’re peddling, and we got the worst case scenario by a measurement so far removed from the other candidates that it has a likely real chance to end democracy as we know it it the US. Its already happening.
So you admit the Democrats fully support the genocide in Israel and yet you’re still busy criticising individual voters for the failures of your party? And then you accuse me of lying even though you just admitted I’m right, albeit in the most backhanded way possible. You’re a spineless morally bankrupt hypocrite. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
You’re doing what’s called a loaded question plus a lot of a strawman logical fallacies here so I’m disinclined to attempt to answer you in good faith when you’ve shown none :) .
But hey, good luck with whatever the fuck it is you seem to have going on in your head. I hope you feel like a morally superior person while trump’s administration puts migrant families into concentration camps, kills Venezuelans by the boatload, disrupts the global stability of the world, threatens our neighbors with our military, deploys our military into our cities, and funds the largest gestapo organization in world history while he keeps supplying Israel with all the weapons they need to keep bombing the Palestinians.
You really showed us. The people who apparently deserve trump because they voted for Kamala. lol.
Everything I said is entirely true, you’re just upset at being called out on your hypocrisy directly. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
Says the dipshit who appears to have not voted in the most likely manner to prevent him from being in power because they were too busy crying about a single issue that dwarfs the situation we now find ourselves in.
You don’t have a clue how I voted and you don’t actually care, you’re just looking for any excuse you can find to discredit anyone who criticizes you for being a morally bankrupt hypocritical coward, which you are lol
Trump won by appealing to his base, who do not give a shit about those things. Harris did the exact opposite, abandoned progressives and campaigned on the continuation of a wildly unpopular status quo and outreach to conservatives/“centrists” who she had no chance with anyway. She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney, I’d absolutely love to see what sort of mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit.
She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney
Yeah, she got prominent conservatives to speak out publicly against Donald Trump. That’s not exactly a bad thing. Did it swing the election? No. Did it cause her to lose? No.
“Thirst for genocide” from someone still making excuses for corporate dems lol, you can keep accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being a bot/troll/russian but it isn’t going to make you any less complicit
Harris has been the recipient of over 9 million dollars from AIPAC. Do you think AIPAC is a charity? You think they can’t figure out whether a politician they’ve donated to is doing what they want or not? Or is this just another case of “bad when the other team does it/fine when my team does it”?
I literally just started internetting today and you’ve already subjected me to the dumbest comment I’ll see all day.
I mean I guess I can see it as glass half full. It’ll only get better for the rest of the day.
Welcome to reality where politicians can’t just break international ties with a geographically strategic ally because a bunch of people want to ignore geopolitics and operate 100% off their feelings.
Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
Nah, Kamala had a stance on Palestine therefore this is the okay alternative. /s
Good thing that situation is completely resolved now /s
It was that laugh.
She smiled too much. I’d rather have fascism.
Howard Dean celebrated too loudly once and i just don’t think i’ll ever get over that
It was so bad that we had to make the Palestinians suffer more by letting a fascist win instead.
GO AMERICA!!!
The media is mostly controlled by republicans and anti-left billionaire centrists, so yes msnbc wants you to think people who care about gaza are the only people responsible for the last election just like they want you to believe that trans people “going too far” are why gavin newsome will lose the general election in 2028 (despite a large portion of democrats being LGBTQ voters and him falling into many right wing pitfalls on the issue)
I haven’t seen any math that holds up that gaza lead to Trump’s win on its own. What it likely did is create a lack of volunteers that led democrats to lose. You can’t scold people into knocking on doors, that’s a “lead by example” situation.
Democrats stepped on a lot of fucking rakes by trying to triangulate immigration and homelessness as well as catering their messaging to (and enriching right wing media with ad revenue in the process) people who will never vote for them.
Specifically Trump has also said Elon helped him rig the election. Elon musk and other social media owners hire people that understand psychology and will make AI clones of the most annoying people they can find and bury twitter in bots emulating those people just like they already find the people that upset conservatives the most (scientists have found conservatives overreact to disgust) and use that to ragebait them constantly. I’ve seen people calling themselves anarchists on this site who mimic media talking points about “online leftists”. Psychology works.
Assume somebody that makes more in a day than you will make in 100 lifetimes is spending a small fraction of their money trying to make you blame the people next to you for your problems instead of themselves because billionairs are doing exactly that.
If there are future elections any time soon, knocking on doors is going to be a lot more effective than screaming into an internet void full of chat bots that all disappear after elections. But if democrats spend all their money and goodwill buying ads on fox news again we’re doomed.
God, get over it, kamala lost because she couldn’t get people to actually vote. Just like Hillary. Same shit would have happened to Joe if he stayed in the race. Kamala lost because the party fucking sucks so hard that they can’t out message the fucking GOP.
The election was a year ago, stop bitching about how nobody voted because Palestine. If you don’t like it, fucking do something about it.
She was a terrible pick for a multitude of reasons.
I’m convinced party leadership is on the trump payroll. You can only fail so much before incompetence becomes indistinguishable from sabotage.
Two thirds of registered voters didn’t vote for Harris yet some people only want to criticize a tiny sliver who were (de)motivated by a damn genocide. That says an awful lot about your priorities. I’m almost starting to wonder if this isn’t an AIPAC thing.
This is pretty much what occurs to me nearly every time I see the pedo-in-chief or one of his criminal syndicate doing something incredibly illegal and/or something to make American lives miserable.
I wish I could find some more decent leftist content via podcast. Right now, I swear about most of the content coming out of TYT seems to be about Gaza.
We have crazies running the place, and it seems to be a race to whether the Seven Mountains Mandate nutjobs or the insane dipshits from the Peter Thiel/Curtis Yarvin wing get to decide how our democracy is carved up. Normal Americans, while the majority, don’t seem to matter, at all. Gaza is a thing, but it’s not the only thing. I wish that people could understand this and bring it into sharp focus.
Meidas seems to do a decent job as do a few others, but that’s via Youtube. Pod Save America is sometimes okay as is Thom Hartmann. I sometimes dip into John Fugelsang. Anyone else have any recommendations for decent podcast content that isn’t the all-Gaza show?
Trump listens to money and clout. He isn’t a Zionist.
Biden is. Kamala would have been because she has no fucking spine.
Can liberals stop dividing the people when the 2024 GE happened a YEAR ago and INSTEAD focus our efforts on the current fucking administration??
"Had a stance’ lol she’s voluntarily complicit in a fucking genocide just like the rest of the corporate dems, you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security
Is that why I’m upset? Good thing she lost and palestinian lives are perfectly fine now.
Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you. Harris could have won if she’d been willing to disavow Israel’s genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that’s what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn’t give a shit about anything but getting paid.
I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn’t at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.
I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.
Amen to that. I wish the Democrats could find their FDR again. The guy did a good job of making the case for economic populism and for the working class. It’s almost like they run away from such things now. It’d be really, really easy to garner massive support for a candidate that spoke like that guy. Ironically, he was considered the compromise by many on the left. The left would do well to remember that, too.
When people go on about term limits for Congress, I often think of this guy. This guy was popular enough to die in office, because he had 4 terms.
I think Democrats should think twice about a lot of things (term limits, blather about a “gerontocracy”, but most especially economic populism), and remember FDR.
Ther were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn’t do her any favors. But even if that weren’t the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.
Not when all the alternative was “more fucking genocide with a side of fascism”
So you’re fine with genocide as long as there are no consequences for you lol, standard liberal
Ok, so what candidate besides Harris stood a chance at winning the election?
Or, let’s try some basic math! What’s worse, one genocide or two?
When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.
I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.
Goddamn your arguments have bigger holes than Charlie Kirk.
Ah, as opposed to the orange man, whose diverse issues include the disintegration of the US, the shakeup of the world economy favoring US enemies, his self-enrichment at the expense of US taxpayers, a scandalous sex trafficking cover-up, the prosecution of people of color possibly leading to a domestic genocide by white supremacists, the exascerbation of domestic violence, deepening the class divide while eradicating the middle class, the prolongation of the Russo-Ukrainian war, and, of course, that same genocide with a bonus resort for the rich while driving everyone out of Gaza! Genius fucking move right there. You did it, you saved Palestine!
I’ll ask again. How’s Trump doing on Palestine?
And THAT is why single issue voting is for fucking losers.
Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
And there it is. Thanks for tipping your hand.
You are detached from reality mate. Neither option would have helped the Palestinian people. So there were no realistic choices on the table that would have solved that issue.
Instead, people got sold a bag of rhetoric and lies, like the ones you’re peddling, and we got the worst case scenario by a measurement so far removed from the other candidates that it has a likely real chance to end democracy as we know it it the US. Its already happening.
So well done, you fucking nonce.
Why bother responding? Person is a complete idiot and won’t be swayed.
Too high on the smell of their own farts.
So you admit the Democrats fully support the genocide in Israel and yet you’re still busy criticising individual voters for the failures of your party? And then you accuse me of lying even though you just admitted I’m right, albeit in the most backhanded way possible. You’re a spineless morally bankrupt hypocrite. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
“I have morals and care about people, that’s why you deserve bad things to happen!”
If you’re still making excuses for the democrats at this point you never had morals and you never gave a shit about anyone but yourself, simple as
When did I make excuses for Democrats?
Your morals seem to be: “you deserve Trump and worse”.
None of the things you said are accurate or true.
You’re doing what’s called a loaded question plus a lot of a strawman logical fallacies here so I’m disinclined to attempt to answer you in good faith when you’ve shown none :) .
But hey, good luck with whatever the fuck it is you seem to have going on in your head. I hope you feel like a morally superior person while trump’s administration puts migrant families into concentration camps, kills Venezuelans by the boatload, disrupts the global stability of the world, threatens our neighbors with our military, deploys our military into our cities, and funds the largest gestapo organization in world history while he keeps supplying Israel with all the weapons they need to keep bombing the Palestinians.
You really showed us. The people who apparently deserve trump because they voted for Kamala. lol.
Everything I said is entirely true, you’re just upset at being called out on your hypocrisy directly. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
Says the dipshit who appears to have not voted in the most likely manner to prevent him from being in power because they were too busy crying about a single issue that dwarfs the situation we now find ourselves in.
You don’t have a clue how I voted and you don’t actually care, you’re just looking for any excuse you can find to discredit anyone who criticizes you for being a morally bankrupt hypocritical coward, which you are lol
Did Donald say all those things? Is that why he is the president now?
Trump won by appealing to his base, who do not give a shit about those things. Harris did the exact opposite, abandoned progressives and campaigned on the continuation of a wildly unpopular status quo and outreach to conservatives/“centrists” who she had no chance with anyway. She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney, I’d absolutely love to see what sort of mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit.
Can’t compete with the ones you’re pulling. Go sign up for the Olympics, you’d surely win gold.
Yeah, she got prominent conservatives to speak out publicly against Donald Trump. That’s not exactly a bad thing. Did it swing the election? No. Did it cause her to lose? No.
Wrong and wrong, cope
Sounds like you’re the one complicit in a genocide
“No u” lol try harder loser
🍆💦😜
Cope
That’s a humorous amount of projection.
Lol right I’m sure you’re laughing right now and not seething at being called out for your amoral bullshit, totally believable
You seem to think your opinion matters more than it does.
You’re mistaken, because your inability or unwillingness to understand nuance means everyone can safely ignore you.
With what? I can’t fix your thirst for genocide so I don’t let it bother me, Mr ruskybot
“Thirst for genocide” from someone still making excuses for corporate dems lol, you can keep accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being a bot/troll/russian but it isn’t going to make you any less complicit
Can you point to the excuses I made for corpo Dems?
And Trump fires said genocide on while Harris was still sending aid.
Harris has been the recipient of over 9 million dollars from AIPAC. Do you think AIPAC is a charity? You think they can’t figure out whether a politician they’ve donated to is doing what they want or not? Or is this just another case of “bad when the other team does it/fine when my team does it”?
Goddamn.
I literally just started internetting today and you’ve already subjected me to the dumbest comment I’ll see all day.
I mean I guess I can see it as glass half full. It’ll only get better for the rest of the day.
Welcome to reality where politicians can’t just break international ties with a geographically strategic ally because a bunch of people want to ignore geopolitics and operate 100% off their feelings.
By the way, how’s Trump looking on Palestine?
Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
The amount of libs down voting you is crazy
What else are they going to do? They sure a shit can’t prove me wrong lol