• village604@adultswim.fan
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      1 day ago

      Ok, so what candidate besides Harris stood a chance at winning the election?

      Or, let’s try some basic math! What’s worse, one genocide or two?

      • RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 day ago

        Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but you and countless others like you went with what you saw as the safe bet for saving your own ass and now you’re paying for it. It’s still just one genocide, the only difference is that you’re being affected. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

            • korazail@lemmy.myserv.one
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              I don’t see what value you think you’re getting from this conversation – other than expressing your anger, which is valid. Your anger is valid, if you are sincere, and many of us feel it too. We really are your allies here, and not your enemy. Your language suggests your are not a US citizen.

              Yes, Kamala lost and due in part to her stances around Israel/Palestine and her chasing the ‘moderate’ vote she was unlikely to win. By blaming the losing party for the bullshit the winning party is doing, you are in part blaming the victims. We don’t want this either.

              Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but […]

              What’s to say that village604 didn’t vote for her? That huge numbers of people didn’t vote for her even while they were unhappy with some of her decisions. Literally anyone could have won if “we” would just vote for them!?

              I will highlight that we, “liberal” voters (language matters), did not get a chance to choose someone as our candidate. That’s a real issue and we need to hold the DNC accountable for that. We also had large amount of content (somewhat like yours) that ‘Kamala/Biden are bad because …’ but ignored that trump would clearly be worse in all cases. I can’t imagine that this didn’t depress her votes. This is hard to prove, but it seems unlikely that this was not in part built by non-US actors who wanted to destabilize us.

              Long-story-short, we “liberal” voters are partially to blame for not turning out enough to get Kamala elected… but we also have a larger body (quantitatively) of trump voters who did show up. THEY are responsible for his policies. And the constant harping on “liberal” voters is doing nothing useful to make things better. I can only imagine that you are one of those non-US actors.

              You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

              I stand for empathy and compassion. For those that live in my neighborhood, my city, my state, my country and my world. I stand for Palestine. I stand for the homeless. I stand for the disabled, the war veterans, the disadvantaged. I am wealthy (comfortable, not millionaire), white, male, and a citizen of the US. When given the opportunity to vote for those causes, I will every time. I will happily pay higher taxes to let someone sleep tonight with a full belly. Your blanket statements against people like me only make things worse. Stop. Be nice to each other.

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      22 hours ago

      When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.

      I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.

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        19 hours ago

        You don’t have to say it, hypocrites don’t usually admit to being hypocrites, fucking duh. Dems are 100% pro-Israel, there would have been just as many palestinians dead, your only real concern is for yourself

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          19 hours ago

          there would have been just as many palestinians dead

          So we agree that Trump isn’t any better for Palestinians?
          Then your “single issue” is irrelevant to the options you had available.

          I’m surprised your bothering to comment on Lemmy. Commenting on Lemmy won’t stop the genocide in Gaza, and apparently if it won’t stop the genocide in Gaza you don’t participate.