Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but you and countless others like you went with what you saw as the safe bet for saving your own ass and now you’re paying for it. It’s still just one genocide, the only difference is that you’re being affected. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
I don’t see what value you think you’re getting from this conversation – other than expressing your anger, which is valid. Your anger is valid, if you are sincere, and many of us feel it too. We really are your allies here, and not your enemy. Your language suggests your are not a US citizen.
Yes, Kamala lost and due in part to her stances around Israel/Palestine and her chasing the ‘moderate’ vote she was unlikely to win. By blaming the losing party for the bullshit the winning party is doing, you are in part blaming the victims. We don’t want this either.
Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but […]
What’s to say that village604 didn’t vote for her? That huge numbers of people didn’t vote for her even while they were unhappy with some of her decisions. Literally anyone could have won if “we” would just vote for them!?
I will highlight that we, “liberal” voters (language matters), did not get a chance to choose someone as our candidate. That’s a real issue and we need to hold the DNC accountable for that. We also had large amount of content (somewhat like yours) that ‘Kamala/Biden are bad because …’ but ignored that trump would clearly be worse in all cases. I can’t imagine that this didn’t depress her votes. This is hard to prove, but it seems unlikely that this was not in part built by non-US actors who wanted to destabilize us.
Long-story-short, we “liberal” voters are partially to blame for not turning out enough to get Kamala elected… but we also have a larger body (quantitatively) of trump voters who did show up. THEY are responsible for his policies. And the constant harping on “liberal” voters is doing nothing useful to make things better. I can only imagine that you are one of those non-US actors.
You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
I stand for empathy and compassion. For those that live in my neighborhood, my city, my state, my country and my world. I stand for Palestine. I stand for the homeless. I stand for the disabled, the war veterans, the disadvantaged. I am wealthy (comfortable, not millionaire), white, male, and a citizen of the US. When given the opportunity to vote for those causes, I will every time. I will happily pay higher taxes to let someone sleep tonight with a full belly. Your blanket statements against people like me only make things worse. Stop. Be nice to each other.
The anger is not valid. The anger is that of a misbehaving child and since you have to be of age to be on this platform this once again an adult behaving like a bratty teenager.
Credit where it’s due this is a much better response than anyone else here has heen able to produce, your bullshit is more subtle and thoughtful than most but it’s still bullshit.
Some liberals are potential allies, the ones still making excuses for the democratic party after everything they’ve done and continue to do are not.
My language does nothing to suggest I’m not a US citizen, it’s just standard operating procedure for dems to accuse anyone who criticizes them of being a russian bot and once again credit where it’s due you managed to imply it in an oblique and plausibly deniable way, very sneaky!
Kamala was not chasing a “moderate” vote she was overtly courting conservatives who anyone with a working brain knew she had no fucking chance with, because literally anything would be better for corporate dems than capitulating to even the most moderate of progressives in any way. They’d rather lose, and they did.
I’m not blaming you losers for what the winners are doing, I’m blaming you for losing in the first place because it was extremely easily avoidable, fucking duh
“If we would just vote for them they’d win” absolves the candidate of any responsibility to actually earn the votes
There was a large amount of content criticizing Biden and Harris because they sucked ass, and you’ve got no evidence whatsoever that the people making it weren’t also criticizing Trump, but claiming that’s the case is an easy way to discredit your critics
You are a disingenuous hypocritical coward just like every one of your compatriots here, you’re slightly better at bullshitting than the rest but nowhere near good enough
When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.
I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.
You don’t have to say it, hypocrites don’t usually admit to being hypocrites, fucking duh. Dems are 100% pro-Israel, there would have been just as many palestinians dead, your only real concern is for yourself
there would have been just as many palestinians dead
So we agree that Trump isn’t any better for Palestinians?
Then your “single issue” is irrelevant to the options you had available.
I’m surprised your bothering to comment on Lemmy. Commenting on Lemmy won’t stop the genocide in Gaza, and apparently if it won’t stop the genocide in Gaza you don’t participate.
We are seething over the very real possibility that we will not have another free election, because of shitstains that think, by not participating in the political process in the smallest fucking way they possibly could, they are going to get politicians to listen to their social media diatribes somehow. It makes zero fucking sense.
Politicians take positions based on the demographics of their voters. It’s always been this way. They look at exit polls, see that 10% of their voters are zoomers and promptly ignore that entire demographic’s demands.
So you’re fine with genocide as long as there are no consequences for you lol, standard liberal
Ok, so what candidate besides Harris stood a chance at winning the election?
Or, let’s try some basic math! What’s worse, one genocide or two?
Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but you and countless others like you went with what you saw as the safe bet for saving your own ass and now you’re paying for it. It’s still just one genocide, the only difference is that you’re being affected. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.
Cope harder
Liberals stay losing
That’s not coping. Do better
Lol @ “do better” from a fucking democrat, stay losing
That’s not doing better.
You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse
I don’t see what value you think you’re getting from this conversation – other than expressing your anger, which is valid. Your anger is valid, if you are sincere, and many of us feel it too. We really are your allies here, and not your enemy. Your language suggests your are not a US citizen.
Yes, Kamala lost and due in part to her stances around Israel/Palestine and her chasing the ‘moderate’ vote she was unlikely to win. By blaming the losing party for the bullshit the winning party is doing, you are in part blaming the victims. We don’t want this either.
What’s to say that village604 didn’t vote for her? That huge numbers of people didn’t vote for her even while they were unhappy with some of her decisions. Literally anyone could have won if “we” would just vote for them!?
I will highlight that we, “liberal” voters (language matters), did not get a chance to choose someone as our candidate. That’s a real issue and we need to hold the DNC accountable for that. We also had large amount of content (somewhat like yours) that ‘Kamala/Biden are bad because …’ but ignored that trump would clearly be worse in all cases. I can’t imagine that this didn’t depress her votes. This is hard to prove, but it seems unlikely that this was not in part built by non-US actors who wanted to destabilize us.
Long-story-short, we “liberal” voters are partially to blame for not turning out enough to get Kamala elected… but we also have a larger body (quantitatively) of trump voters who did show up. THEY are responsible for his policies. And the constant harping on “liberal” voters is doing nothing useful to make things better. I can only imagine that you are one of those non-US actors.
I stand for empathy and compassion. For those that live in my neighborhood, my city, my state, my country and my world. I stand for Palestine. I stand for the homeless. I stand for the disabled, the war veterans, the disadvantaged. I am wealthy (comfortable, not millionaire), white, male, and a citizen of the US. When given the opportunity to vote for those causes, I will every time. I will happily pay higher taxes to let someone sleep tonight with a full belly. Your blanket statements against people like me only make things worse. Stop. Be nice to each other.
The anger is not valid. The anger is that of a misbehaving child and since you have to be of age to be on this platform this once again an adult behaving like a bratty teenager.
Credit where it’s due this is a much better response than anyone else here has heen able to produce, your bullshit is more subtle and thoughtful than most but it’s still bullshit.
Some liberals are potential allies, the ones still making excuses for the democratic party after everything they’ve done and continue to do are not.
My language does nothing to suggest I’m not a US citizen, it’s just standard operating procedure for dems to accuse anyone who criticizes them of being a russian bot and once again credit where it’s due you managed to imply it in an oblique and plausibly deniable way, very sneaky!
Kamala was not chasing a “moderate” vote she was overtly courting conservatives who anyone with a working brain knew she had no fucking chance with, because literally anything would be better for corporate dems than capitulating to even the most moderate of progressives in any way. They’d rather lose, and they did.
I’m not blaming you losers for what the winners are doing, I’m blaming you for losing in the first place because it was extremely easily avoidable, fucking duh
“If we would just vote for them they’d win” absolves the candidate of any responsibility to actually earn the votes
There was a large amount of content criticizing Biden and Harris because they sucked ass, and you’ve got no evidence whatsoever that the people making it weren’t also criticizing Trump, but claiming that’s the case is an easy way to discredit your critics
You are a disingenuous hypocritical coward just like every one of your compatriots here, you’re slightly better at bullshitting than the rest but nowhere near good enough
and if my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bicycle
Your grandmother would have been a better candidate than Kamala Harris with or without wheels
sure thing tankie. kindly head back to .ml
You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse
Goddamn your arguments have bigger holes than Charlie Kirk.
I’m right and you know it
When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.
I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.
You don’t have to say it, hypocrites don’t usually admit to being hypocrites, fucking duh. Dems are 100% pro-Israel, there would have been just as many palestinians dead, your only real concern is for yourself
So we agree that Trump isn’t any better for Palestinians?
Then your “single issue” is irrelevant to the options you had available.
I’m surprised your bothering to comment on Lemmy. Commenting on Lemmy won’t stop the genocide in Gaza, and apparently if it won’t stop the genocide in Gaza you don’t participate.
My “single issue” was extremely relevant to the election you clowns are still seething over
We are seething over the very real possibility that we will not have another free election, because of shitstains that think, by not participating in the political process in the smallest fucking way they possibly could, they are going to get politicians to listen to their social media diatribes somehow. It makes zero fucking sense.
Politicians take positions based on the demographics of their voters. It’s always been this way. They look at exit polls, see that 10% of their voters are zoomers and promptly ignore that entire demographic’s demands.
You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse