• RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you. Harris could have won if she’d been willing to disavow Israel’s genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that’s what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn’t give a shit about anything but getting paid.

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      Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you

      I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn’t at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.

      I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.

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        I’ll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.

        Amen to that. I wish the Democrats could find their FDR again. The guy did a good job of making the case for economic populism and for the working class. It’s almost like they run away from such things now. It’d be really, really easy to garner massive support for a candidate that spoke like that guy. Ironically, he was considered the compromise by many on the left. The left would do well to remember that, too.

        When people go on about term limits for Congress, I often think of this guy. This guy was popular enough to die in office, because he had 4 terms.

        I think Democrats should think twice about a lot of things (term limits, blather about a “gerontocracy”, but most especially economic populism), and remember FDR.

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        Ther were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn’t do her any favors. But even if that weren’t the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

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          being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

          Not when all the alternative was “more fucking genocide with a side of fascism”

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              Ok, so what candidate besides Harris stood a chance at winning the election?

              Or, let’s try some basic math! What’s worse, one genocide or two?

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                Literally anybody could have won if spineless cowards like you had supported them, but you and countless others like you went with what you saw as the safe bet for saving your own ass and now you’re paying for it. It’s still just one genocide, the only difference is that you’re being affected. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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              When did I say that? I live in fucking reality and could recognize that even though Harris sucked Trump was clearly going to be far worse for Gaza as well as everything else.

              I’m sure you sleep well at night with your morals resulting in you not participating in a simple action that would have resulted in fewer deaths. Good job.

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                You don’t have to say it, hypocrites don’t usually admit to being hypocrites, fucking duh. Dems are 100% pro-Israel, there would have been just as many palestinians dead, your only real concern is for yourself

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                  there would have been just as many palestinians dead

                  So we agree that Trump isn’t any better for Palestinians?
                  Then your “single issue” is irrelevant to the options you had available.

                  I’m surprised your bothering to comment on Lemmy. Commenting on Lemmy won’t stop the genocide in Gaza, and apparently if it won’t stop the genocide in Gaza you don’t participate.

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          being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide

          Ah, as opposed to the orange man, whose diverse issues include the disintegration of the US, the shakeup of the world economy favoring US enemies, his self-enrichment at the expense of US taxpayers, a scandalous sex trafficking cover-up, the prosecution of people of color possibly leading to a domestic genocide by white supremacists, the exascerbation of domestic violence, deepening the class divide while eradicating the middle class, the prolongation of the Russo-Ukrainian war, and, of course, that same genocide with a bonus resort for the rich while driving everyone out of Gaza! Genius fucking move right there. You did it, you saved Palestine!

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          being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

          I’ll ask again. How’s Trump doing on Palestine?

          And THAT is why single issue voting is for fucking losers.

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            Palestine is exactly as fucked as they would have been under Kamala Harris, recipient of 9 million dollars from fucking AIPAC. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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      You are detached from reality mate. Neither option would have helped the Palestinian people. So there were no realistic choices on the table that would have solved that issue.

      Instead, people got sold a bag of rhetoric and lies, like the ones you’re peddling, and we got the worst case scenario by a measurement so far removed from the other candidates that it has a likely real chance to end democracy as we know it it the US. Its already happening.

      So well done, you fucking nonce.

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        So you admit the Democrats fully support the genocide in Israel and yet you’re still busy criticising individual voters for the failures of your party? And then you accuse me of lying even though you just admitted I’m right, albeit in the most backhanded way possible. You’re a spineless morally bankrupt hypocrite. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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          None of the things you said are accurate or true.

          You’re doing what’s called a loaded question plus a lot of a strawman logical fallacies here so I’m disinclined to attempt to answer you in good faith when you’ve shown none :) .

          But hey, good luck with whatever the fuck it is you seem to have going on in your head. I hope you feel like a morally superior person while trump’s administration puts migrant families into concentration camps, kills Venezuelans by the boatload, disrupts the global stability of the world, threatens our neighbors with our military, deploys our military into our cities, and funds the largest gestapo organization in world history while he keeps supplying Israel with all the weapons they need to keep bombing the Palestinians.

          You really showed us. The people who apparently deserve trump because they voted for Kamala. lol.

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            Everything I said is entirely true, you’re just upset at being called out on your hypocrisy directly. You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse.

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          “I have morals and care about people, that’s why you deserve bad things to happen!”

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            If you’re still making excuses for the democrats at this point you never had morals and you never gave a shit about anyone but yourself, simple as

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                That’s literally the only thing you or any of the other butthurt liberals responding to me here are doing, it’s all you can do because the alternative would be admitting you were wrong and none of you have the spine for that shit lol

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                  Ah, so I didn’t say it anywhere and you are stereotyping anyone who disagrees with you as an excuse to call them hypocrites, while you wish bad things upon them because you care about bad things not happening to people. Got it.

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          you deserve Trump and worse.

          Says the dipshit who appears to have not voted in the most likely manner to prevent him from being in power because they were too busy crying about a single issue that dwarfs the situation we now find ourselves in.

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            You don’t have a clue how I voted and you don’t actually care, you’re just looking for any excuse you can find to discredit anyone who criticizes you for being a morally bankrupt hypocritical coward, which you are lol

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        Trump won by appealing to his base, who do not give a shit about those things. Harris did the exact opposite, abandoned progressives and campaigned on the continuation of a wildly unpopular status quo and outreach to conservatives/“centrists” who she had no chance with anyway. She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney, I’d absolutely love to see what sort of mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit.

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          She literally had campaign appearances with Liz fucking Cheney

          Yeah, she got prominent conservatives to speak out publicly against Donald Trump. That’s not exactly a bad thing. Did it swing the election? No. Did it cause her to lose? No.

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          mental gymnastics you can pull to justify that shit

          Can’t compete with the ones you’re pulling. Go sign up for the Olympics, you’d surely win gold.