Just remember; when someone says “don’t make it political,” that’s a statement with a political agenda.
Call them out on that bullshit.
That’s literally his backstory. He’s a refugee from another planet that’s like the whole point.
Imagine being this goddamn stupid.
Well, Ackchyually…
The “Superman isn’t an immigrant” is a bad faith argument… but I think it’s technically correct.
Being an immigrant implies intent of moving from one country to another, which Superman didn’t have. Especially since he came to earth as a baby and has no ties to krypton. I wouldn’t call someone who was born in another country and was adopted as a baby into another country and immigrant.
Superman does explore themes of immigration from its conception. Though it’s worth noting that if viewed from this perspective, it’s a very old fashion American model of immigration, that might be viewed negatively today - he adopts his American upbringing in every meaningful way, especially his values, while his own culture is abandoned (nearly?) completely.
Supergirl, on the other hand, is an immigrant.
Superman is an immigrant created by two sons of immigrants.
His parents sent him to Earth to have a better life (any life at all really). Something similar happens in reality where parents in Central and South America send their children, alone, to the US.
Also happens with babies adopted from other countries. You may not consider them immigrants, but the government sure as hell does. There’s quite a bit of immigration paperwork that needs to get filed in order for one of those adoptions to go through.
Err… Superman’s an immigrant because the parents of both his creators were immigrants? Is that actually what you’re saying?
His parents sent him to Earth to have a better life (any life at all really) - Right, that was my main dilemma. Not saying you’re flat out wrong, but I think ‘immigrant’ exists in a cultural and social context. Let’s go over some examples:
- A woman gives birth on vacation
- A family moves to another country has a child and then moves back when the child is 12
- Having a child a day before immigrating.
- Having a child a day after immigrating. I’d say 2-4 are immigrants, because they and society would probably view themselves as immigrants.
If he were human, the government would consider him an immigrant - Legal status is irrelevant.
Superman didn’t have to translate things to his parents because he knew English better than they did, his upbringing didn’t give him an outsider insight to the culture that surrounded him, he doesn’t have an accent or not can code switch from English to Kryptonian, he isn’t viewed as different by his peers. He was raised as a whatever-generation farm boy from Kansas.
He does have Kryptonian heritage, which would make him closer to second generation immigrant. Just like his creators.
This man is so close to understanding the white privilege. Doubt he has the ability to see though…
Superman’s an immigrant because the parents of both his creators were immigrants?
Joe Schuster is Canadian. It’s not just his parents. They moved to the US when he was 10.
You just wrote an essay to argue semantics. Why? Maybe “refugee” would be more accurate, but the two are synonymous in the current political discussion. You’re creating a conflict here for no reason other than your own enjoyment from arguing. If that’s what you want to do, go to twitter.
disagreement != conflict
It’s not semantics, I think the social and cultural elements of being an immigrant are interesting. And I found that by talking to people who disagree with me, it improves the chances of learning something new.
Didn’t know trying to analyze the things posted here or voicing a different opinion is frowned upon here. How about:
What a boomer, he’s so stupid! Fuck Dean Cain!
(If you think that’s unfair, these are all upvoted posts)
Really because art doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Art is influenced by the culture in which it is created.
Are you seriously trying to argue that a man with unprecedented godlike powers from another world isn’t an allegory.
I kinda wish they had gone for an actor of middle eastern descent, or perhaps even immigrant status, to portray Supes. For no reason other than to piss off the bigots.
Boomer has boomer opinion, next at 11.
This is peak absurdity. You have a being from another planet, the being is sent from another planet because his planet was about to explode. In a last ditch attempt he was sent to earth by his parents. It surely sounds like a person who could be identified as an immigrant, illegal alien or asylum seeker.
Did Covid make dumb people even dumber? Ignorance certainly is bliss…
Funny thing is I’ve been calling Superman an illegal immigrant for decades. All of the sudden it’s not a joke anymore. It’s a friggin comic book hero for crying out loud.
These people want to be evil but hate being told that they’re evil, so anything with an anti-evil message must be “woke”.
Did COVID make dumb people even dumber?
No, they were always that dumb. They probably just projected themselves onto Superman because he’s a strong white man and clearly strong white people cannot be illegal immigrants because that breaks their pathetic little power trip fantasy.
This is specifically comments by Dean Cain, a man who once played Superman, but didn’t seem to actually pay attention to any of the scripts, because he became a right wing grifter.
His weirdly horny Superman refused to put on the costume because he thought he was above it.
Then he stopped being a hero because he didn’t want to help people.
I think you’re confusing Smallville and Lois & Clark.
Two different shows. Smallville was the one with Clark as a “teen” and never showed the costume. It launched the career of Alison Mack, of NXIVM sex cult fame.
Dean Cain was in Lois & Clark, and wore the costume throughout the show. But he also took a hard right turn afterward while trying to stay relevant.
I dont know how legit was the research methodology, but I did read a paper somewhere that even asymptomatic covid decreased peoples QI for a measurable ammount.
Maybe actually. They figured out what caused the loss of smell: brain damage
DUDE! In the 1940s they called Superman an immigrant… HE IS A FUCKING ALIEN!
Also he was an ILLEGAL alien! His escape pod landed outside some childless couple’s farm house in the mid-west, and bless their hearts the first thing they did was adopt him.
He was brought to (or rather, fired at) Earth as a baby. Arguably he should be first in line to be a DACA recipient.
He also spends his spare time literally fighting a billionaire, so there’s that…
Ignoranus n. Someone who is both ignorant and an asshole.
He & Sorbo need to have themselves a bro down, together. My money is on Cain being first nut out.
They did, they’re called God’s Not Dead 1-58
Welp. All I have to say about that is: fuck Dean Cain.
They didn’t go woke Dean, you aged to be a shitty person.
He’s literally an illegal alien. Like, according to every definition of the words.
He’s litterally an alien.
An Illegal alien at that. He can’t even claim Birthright Citizenship, if we still followed the Constitution I mean.
He can’t even claim Birthright Citizenship
Canonically, I believe he was still technically gestating in the pod before he arrived. So he’s more of an Anchor Baby.
Wasn’t he a child getting told to become space Jesus by Marlon Brando when he was still in the space pod?
Superman is an All-American immigrant
Acrtion Comics #1 …Lets see:
- Superman persuades the Governor to stay the execution of an innocent death-row inmate (p. 3-4)
- Beats up an abusive husband (p. 6-7)
- Dumps some rich sex-pests out of their car (p. 9-10)
- Intervenes in a corrupt lobbyist bribing a DC Senator (p. 11-end)
“When did Superman become so WOOOooooOOOke???”
thank you, at least we have a definitive answer now: literally in the first comic book that he appeared in.
I’m going to guess that James Gunn isn’t going to take career advice from…checks notes…Dean fucking Cain.
