America deserves to be recognized as a Third World Country. I say this as an American, it’s deplorable how the citizens are treated.
The cold war is over, they are called developing countries now. Your point still stands, the US has lots of developing to do, especially on the social/society front.
It doesn’t meet the definition of “developing nation” either.
South Sudan is a third world country. America isnt third world, it’s heading into authoritarianism.
To be clear- this is just your personal “vibe” and not an actual fact, because the term “third world country” literally means a country that is not aligned with the US or USSR. If you meant “developing nation” that term also has a definition the US does not meet.
I think the term is “A third world country with a Gucci belt”
We’ve been a third world country for a several decades already. Just because we use to change out guys in the office every 4-8 years, doesnt mean it was ever all that good here.
And a few days after that, PragerU releases a video titled “Why democracies will fail eventually”, which tells its viewers that democracy creates “moral decadence”, and now a “strong leader” is needed to fix the issue, who might have told some noble lies like a parent tells their kid the stork brings the children when they’re not ready for reality. And the video ends with a “Roman salute” over “God Bless America”.
People tell their kids the stork brings babies because the parent is the one not ready to have the conversation.
The parent is avoiding their own humiliation. Telling kids how babies are made is not embarassing for kids. Kids have no reason to feel shame or judgement about these kinds of things….
Just pointing this out to show that the metaphor here is deeply flawed.
3-4 year olds don’t need to know about birds and the bees
Sex, procreation is not a horrible perverted thing. It’s biology, science, and should be explained as soon as they’re curious enough to ask.
Knowledge of bodily functions seems to concern you. That is your problem, not the kids.
It literally matters zero percent if kids know how bodies function.
The fear and judgement is all in your head lol.
It’s not even the matter of how the body works it can lead to them watching porn and shit early on which isn’t good cause kids are curious and google exists literally speaking from personal experience I was told way to early on by older friends and it lead to shit I don’t need to get into
You need some therapy. Telling kids the truth about how our bodies work early on doesn’t harm them, but maybe your parents not talking to you about it and your older friends having to do it, perhaps in a crude way, is what led to that shit you don’t need to get into.
That’s the problem. You were told by friends who left you with questions you answered in unsafe ways, not by adults who could answer your questions in an age appropriate way.
Giving kids age-appropriate sex-ed is a good way to protect them against predators. Many victims don’t even know something wrong has been done to them because people like you are too afraid to give them the barest guidance.
Dude, they’ll watch porn either way probably. It’s more likely if you make it taboo that they’ll get into some weird shit. If it’s normalized then it’s not some mysterious thing they need to discover on their own. Your thought process is what leads to kids watching porn too young. They’re going to learn about it, like you did from older friends. If your parents made it normal to discuss maybe you’d be healthier.
I was told way to early on by older friends
There’s your problem.
You were clearly abused by the church :(. I’m sorry that happened to you.
No
lol I watched porn hella young, I never got a talk, greatful none of my searches at like 10 were connected to an older family member, fbi showing up wouldve been wild
Lots of 3 to 4 year olds are perfectly aware that they have a future sibling brewing in mom’s tummy.
Lol, tell me you’ve never been on a farm without telling me.
3-4 year olds don’t need to know about birds and the bees
Why not? It’s interesting and biology is part of the natural world around us.
Some kids probably won’t care but others will be super interested. Start the conversation and see where it leads.
I hate that I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or if this really happened
Could? …should.
Oh, but were not a democracy, were a constitutional republic hardy har har har har
- my republican friends.
we’re a constitutional federal republic, with democratically elected representatives, but a plutocracy, in practice
- me, a political science pedant of highest/worst order
I’d like to subscribe to more political pedantry
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As a political science pedant, can you explain to me the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic? I tried to Google “constitutional republic” but I just got a Wikipedia page that said they were the same thing.
Which I guess would fit, since republicans are absolute dumbfucks, but if there’s actually some nuance there, I’m curious to know.
Thanks!
If the question is “What’s the difference?”, then, as is tradition, we must figuratively clear our throats before such discourse with the well-worn adage, “It depends.”
As a disclaimer, much of this content was copied from Wikipedia and arranged in a way to support my opinion; none of this should be taken as Gospel. This is not financial advice. And please accept my apologies for the tedious length.
If we limit our terms’ definitions to their etymological roots, then:
Democracy
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The term democracy first appeared in ancient Greek political and philosophical thought in the city-state of Athens during classical antiquity. The word comes from dêmos ‘(common) people’ and krátos ‘force/might’.
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In a direct democracy, the people have the direct authority to deliberate and decide legislation. In a representative democracy, the people choose governing officials through elections to do so. The definition of “the people” and the ways authority is shared among them or delegated by them have changed over time and at varying rates in different countries.
Republic
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The term originates from the Latin translation of Greek word politeia. Cicero, among other Latin writers, translated politeia into Latin as res publica, and it was in turn translated by Renaissance scholars as republic (or similar terms in various European languages). The term can literally be translated as ‘public matter’. It was used by Roman writers to refer to the state and government, even during the period of the Roman Empire. The term politeia can be translated as form of government, polity, or regime, and it does not necessarily imply any specific type of regime as the modern word republic sometimes does.
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A republic, based on the Latin phrase res publica (‘public affair’ or ‘people’s affair’), is a state in which political power rests with the public (people) through their representatives—in contrast to a monarchy. Although a republic is most often a single sovereign state, subnational state entities that have governments that are republican in nature may be referred to as republics.
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Representation in a republic may or may not be freely elected by the general citizenry. In many historical republics, representation has been based on personal status and the role of elections has been limited. This remains true today; among the 159 states that use republic in their official names as of 2017, and other states formally constituted as republics, are states that narrowly constrain both the right of representation and the process of election.
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The term developed its modern meaning in reference to the constitution of the ancient Roman Republic, lasting from the overthrow of the kings in 509 BC to the establishment of the Empire in 27 BC. This constitution was characterized by a Senate composed of wealthy aristocrats wielding significant influence; several popular assemblies of all free citizens, possessing the power to elect magistrates from the populace and pass laws; and a series of magistracies with varying types of civil and political authority.
Plutocracy
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A plutocracy (from Ancient Greek πλοῦτος (ploûtos) ‘wealth’ and κράτος (krátos) ‘power’) or plutarchy is a society that is ruled or controlled by people of great wealth or income. The first known use of the term in English dates from 1631. Unlike most political systems, plutocracy is not rooted in any established political philosophy.
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Some modern historians, politicians, and economists argue that the U.S. was effectively plutocratic for at least part of the Gilded Age and Progressive Era periods between the end of the Civil War until the beginning of the Great Depression.
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President Theodore Roosevelt became known as the “trust-buster” for his aggressive use of antitrust law, through which he managed to break up such major combinations as the largest railroad and Standard Oil, the largest oil company. According to historian David Burton, “When it came to domestic political concerns, TR’s bête noire was the plutocracy.” In his autobiographical account of taking on monopolistic corporations as president, Roosevelt recounted:
…we had come to the stage where for our people what was needed was a real democracy; and of all forms of tyranny the least attractive and the most vulgar is the tyranny of mere wealth, the tyranny of a plutocracy.
On paper, we (the U.S.) are a not a direct democracy, though we do vote directly about some issues via referendums; our constitution codifies the extents and limitations of legislation, enforcement, and jurisprudence of our laws and our rights as citizens.
We directly elect representatives to carry out the business of governance from local, state, to the federal level as our country’s political union is a federation of States that simultaneously retain their autonomy via the parameters outlined within the constitution and cede ultimate authority of jurisprudence to our bicameral national assembly (in our case, Congress) and Supreme Court.
In practice, due to regulatory capture, political expedience and corruption, and the realities of our global economic expansion, our country is effectively ruled by 2 factions of a political class of wealth that use faux-populism to maintain their power and influence.
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“me, a political science pedant of highest/worst order”
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constitutional republic
So we’re going to follow the constitution?
ohh
It’s like talking to MAGA about Christianity So you’re going to follow the bible?
ohh
I wish I could award this comment. It follows my occasional and unfulfilling conversations with Republicans extremely closely. If the conversation doesn’t end with wanting to pull my hair out and put my head through the nearest available drywall, did I really talk to Republican?
Oh don’t worry, they’re going to try to change the constitution to match the worldview they like.
Do your friends not understand that Republics are a small subset of Democracies?
Yes, though in all fairness, they were acquaintances. I unfriended them.
Oh, we are? Is that why everyone other than hetero white males is getting mentions removed or protections gutted and/or removed? What part of the constitution that provides rights to all Americans is in play when this is happening? Go ahead, I’ll wait…
That would be my response.
My response is to click that “unfriend” button and never see them on social media again.
That works as well. I was going to delete my Facebook but decided posting things supporting minorities and other groups while being an annoyance to the right was more important.
Has lost*
Probably won’t get it back
We should have never had the status given we still use slaves.
Having a for-profit prison system was a bad choice.
Who could have seen it coming ?
And a pay to win political candidate system, and a heavily monetized educational system. Who is surprised about the decline of the man who steps on his dick and machineguns his own foot?
Land of the free founded on slaves. America really is just a big pile of hypocrisy under the hood of vain surface level patriotism.
“Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
The US is one of the most watered down democracies, even for a liberal democracy (which is severely watered down). Its a system where the needs of the many are filtered through the needs of the few. We dont need to “fix” liberal democracy, we need workers democracy (syndicalism).
What are you even talking about, lol?
I think what they mean is, in theory in Democracy the majority decides about political actions by electing their representatives who in turn act on their behalf. In the US this is heavily manipulated by e.g. only giving a very limited number of choices which dont represent most peoples opinions. Not everyones opinion is worth the same, you buy influence with money.
Do you really think that the previous poster understands that? I highly doubt that.
What makes you think so?
There’s nothing liberal about US “democracy”.
Liberal democracy has a fixed definition, its not a term they came up with.
That doesn’t mean they understand that term.
It lost that status a long time ago. We keep the veneer of it intact, though.
Most of the “Democracy” status countries are bull shit anyway. They are heavily weighed on “Economic Freedom” which is a fancy way of saying the freedom for which Imperialist nations corporations are able to exploit third world countries resources.
Nationalize your oil system and have the profits of it go directly back to your people for the improvement of social programs? Damn, that sounds like Communism!
Sell oil drilling rights to Shell to “bring jobs” to your country that pay poverty wages, destroy local ecosystems, and extract all your resources with no benefits to the local population? Well, that’s “Economic Freedom” baby!
First of all, that’s not what “Economic Freedom” means in the context of democracy, but more importantly “economic freedom” is not even a factor in the methodology used by the group this article is citing.
I wasn’t referencing the article I was speaking more generally on things like “Democracy Index” or others that care more about a country having unregulated free markets than they do about citizens having healthcare. This is often what these “democracy” surveys refer to as Economic Freedom. You can pretend it’s how they act like it’s defined like “oh the government can’t tell you what business you can run as a poor mom and pop shop”. But in reality it’s the biggest players that benefit from unregulated markets on a global scale.
It’s why a capitalist hellhole like Argentina is considered a “flawed democracy” and Cuba is considered “Authoritarian”. It’s just neoliberal bull shit.
Is this just your vibes or do you have a source? Because I just checked the website of the organization this article is referencing and it says no such thing.
Anyone surprised by this? Anyone? Because I’m not.
We haven’t had a vote on the shape or priorities of our economy since 1980. This is an economic dictatorship, and has been longer than most of us here have been alive.
We just get a vote on how/if to address the social wedge symptoms that economy either causes or exacerbates.
And only IF addressing them won’t meaningfully harm quarterly earnings expectations for our sociopath class. Example: you know what would drastically reduce the number of abortions without any kind of ban? A living wage that can support a family. But that would cut into corporate metastasis and is therefore a non-starter by either party in anything more than rhetoric.
You can have scapegoating® or affirmation ribbons(D), so long as you vote for for profit prisons, legal murder for profit, millions of Americans dying of exposure on the streets, crumbling commons, public education in utter ruin… Freedom!
New banana republic just dropped!
It’s not exactly new, it’s just that we’re seeing clarification of changes that have been in the works for the last 20 years or longer, depending if you want to go back to Reagan.
And not surprisingly, he has to try to grab power as quickly as possible. If things collapse slowly then the people will still have the ability to rise up against him.
Old banana Republic just dropped!
Could? Lmao. Don’t you need laws and elected officials to count as a democracy to begin with?
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Have you read the US Constitution? How is this misinformation?
I’m pretty impressed by that mod action frankly. In a bad way.
reminds me of reddit, also in a bad way.
One thing about Reddit though is you couldn’t see the mod log and know which subs were run by crazy people.
Or just U.S./Corporate tools.
- Democracy isn’t a status given by some watchdog.
- Democracy is shit
Anything else than democracy is shittier
“Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…”
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
Demonstrably false.
Go ahead and demonstrate it then
Easy: democracies don’t last long compared to the other forms government. So they can’t be better than other forms of government.
Only for those who prefer the taste of boot leather.
We await patiently for your demonstration.
What’s the longest lifespan of a democratic state in human history? Now compare it to the average lifespan of monarchies, for example.
The measure of whether a system of government is good or bad is not “how long it lasts”.
It’s the main criterion. If the system doesn’t last, then it’s shit regardless of what it is. The main purpose of the government (and any organization, for that matter) is to exist for as long as possible, everything else comes second. I wonder what other criteria do you have in mind?
- 482 years
- 636 years
Roman Republic wasn’t a democracy. It was ruled by aristocratic families. Lol.
The argument is that they were a democratic republic.
several popular assemblies of all free citizens, possessing the power to elect magistrates from the populace and pass laws; and a series of magistracies with varying types of civil and political authority.
If you’re referring to direct democracy, I suppose we could consider the Athenian democracy, though I think there are other examples from different regions on the planet through antiquity.
It was ruled by aristocratic families.
We’re not so different after all!
okay russian shill, go back to /ML/.
Oooh edgy.
I’ll guess they are a college freshman or younger.
So you’re all for dictatorships then?
Democracy and dictatorship is not a dichotomy.
It kinda is, everything falls on that scale, either people are being represented and representing themselves or they aren’t. Everything else is just the mechanics of that.
Was Roman Republic a dictatorship?
I don’t know much about Romans. Eventually it became an empire with an emperor and all though.
Roman Republic exited for 500 years before Roman empire. They were the first to implement the division of government into 3 branches, so I guess they weren’t a dictatorship? They actually invented the word “dictator”. It was temporary authority given to the head of the state at the times of emergency. So, most of the time Rome wasn’t a dictatorship. And it wasn’t a democracy.
What do you mean by that?
- Do you mean electoral politics is fundamentally flawed?
- Do you mean direct action by the working class (workers democracy) is better than liberalism?
- Or are you just begging to have the orange tyrants foot deep down your throat?
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Yes. Obviously.
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No. Both are shit.
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No.
Looking at your past comments would suggest you’re a bootlicker
Well, seems like your deductive capabilities are subpar. Don’t try suggesting thing again, you suck at it.
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