Downvote me if you want but longer wheelbase means its easier to ground out in the middle. It also means it can’t hit higher angles or turn as tight.

But most, worse.

Because the rest of us get put in the same group. And this whole thread is about stereotyping, so I don’t think it’s out of order for a few jeep owners to vent their frustration of other jeep owners. Like, I get the stereotype, and I’m not arguing it, because it annoys me too. I’m the one being stereotyped because the hobby has been intruded on. And then the duck thing got picked up by all jeep models. I’ve seen base model brand new unmodded Cherokees with 30 ducks. I wouldn’t take that more off-road than a gravel road. It’s a mockery of the community.

Mines 15 years old and I haven’t experienced roof leaks, even in car washes. It is loud, not as loud as my MX-5 though. My biggest complaint with the jeep is driving on the highway when it’s windy. That shit is scary AF.

Yup, I can’t stand the 4 door.

With the back seat folded up, the wrangler is a good daily as long as you’re not commuting far.

I fucking hate people who display the ducks. I always just give mine to my kid.

JK is solid. 2012 got the better engine my my '11 has never had any problems. I know the engine will die on me at some point and I’ll just have to swap. Hoping someone makes a kit to fit the hurricane in there by then.

I have an 11 and it bangs, never had any problems with it either.

I’ve got an '11 and have never had any problems.

Hopefully!

Nah, she played her part. She’s of no use to him now.

That’s a lot of what-ifs.

There were 2 entrees, which he obviously had himself because nobody would be seen with this guy, and yes, alcohol. But that’s no excuse for this shitbag.

Your first billion us bill. The rest will be toilet paper.

Where the fuck does he think they got the information from?

He might be lucky he didn’t have to see this shitshow.

Me too.

Holy shit, it’d be amazing to get a real, punitive fine for a mega corp for once.

My aunt is leaving my uncle for this exact reason, but she’s still an R.