• collapse_already@lemmy.ml
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    From the same party that wants to charge minority children as adults if they misbehave. Actual adults are just kids though.

    Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

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    Just some 30 year kids. They will say edgy things. I mean, come on guys. … no really, let’s go to ikea and fuck a sofa.

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      You may have a career in politics ahead of you, my friend. Maybe even Vice President.

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          Iirc (don’t quote me on this) during reconstruction after the Civil War many black Americans had little land (if any) and watermelon was an easy crop for limited land. Racist white people then associated the fruit with those they hate.

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            You got it, but you left out some details. The watermelon was actually a symbol of hope and prosperity for the recently freed slaves. The former slave owners, didnt like it. So, owning the media of the time, they started running ads showing caricatures of black people eating watermelon like animals. It took less then 10 years for the belief to become common that it was always a racist trope.

            See also, fried chicken. That one came from Birth of a Nation. Both of these racist stereotypes persist today. I know the black community in America wanted to reclaim the N word, but IMO, they should have reclaimed the Watermelon as the symbol of freedom and perseverance that it once was for that first generation of freed slaves who over came massive hurdles to make a life for themselves.

            To give you an idea of just how bad it was, there was a story about a woman who was a nanny for a young boy. When she was freed, and had to leave the boy cried and was utterly distraught that she was leaving. A few years later that young boy met his nanny again. The woman was overjoyed to see him and asked if he’d like to share some watermelon with him. His reply? “I dont eat n***** food.”. Thats the power of the media, and then it was only a few newspapers. Just imagine what its doing to us all today.

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              Honestly I’m not a fan, but in America it is explicitly tied to racism for whatever reason

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              The fried chicken and watermelon thing is the stupidest thing in the world. Everyone loves these things. Every single culture in the entire world has its own fried chicken dish.

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    So the party that likes the slavers, the crossed flag, that hates poor’s, … is a Nazi nest…

    What are the news again?

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    They’re not joking. They’re literally starting a genocide and a fascist military police state in front of our eyes

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      For a decade, I have been begging anyone who will listen to believe Trump et al. whenever they threaten someone. I swear that the only time Trump tells the truth is when he promises violence, retribution, or lawbreaking.

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    As long as on person is stupid enough to buy their bs they will continue doing it … :/

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      I wish the media outlets would publish pictures of them they didn’t pull from Linkedin but actual, social-media pics of these asswipes in their average, every-day, stained house-clothes and hoodies. It may seem superficial but these are the kinds of people who are deeply insecure about themselves and it would do far more damage than exposing their stupid conversations. They’re NOT ashamed of what they said, we have to understand that. If anything they are delighting in the attention.

      These are just 4chan trolls who matured got older and managed to get a foot in the door of actual political action. While I don’t believe they are more serious in their beliefs than any 4chan self-proclaimed nazi, they are definitely going to empower the actual intelligent fascists and monsters who crave power. Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects would weaken them in the arena of aesthetic performance and aspirations for leadership in the party.

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        Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects

        That’s what these pictures are though, they’re just in suits. I find the fact that they’re all in suits hilarious. Dude is what, 23 and has the same build that 79 year old Trump has.

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      Yes, as always, the master race: fat, balding, and utterly insignificant without the inbred assurance that their skin color is some kind of achievement.

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        It’s ironic that the greatest achievements of the white “race” (race in quotes since it’s not a real thing) have been in the realm of technology, yet the most advanced thing these inbred fucks have ever achieved is mounting big flags in the backs of their trucks.

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          Know what you’re getting at and you seem to address this but I wouldn’t attribute any achievement to the white race. That feeds into the Nazi narrative. Every achievement is an adaptation of or a step forward from ancient human wisdom. The concept of zero, which is foundational to all modern mathematics and technology, was derived from the spiritual and philosophical practices of people in South Asia. The precursors of the printing press were developed by people in China partly due to the rapid expansion of Buddhism creating a high demand for sutras.

          Many of the mathematic “developments” of Fibonacci, for example, were already known in the Arabian peninsula, after having been transferred from South Asia and further developed. He learned Arabic in order to being them to the West. The infinite series for trigonometric functions (precursors to calculus) were also known in South Asia and the Arab peninsula before being ?discovered independently in Europe (its unknown if this knowledge transferred).

          Finally I’ll end with the fact that both the industrial revolution and enlightenment occurred on the back of colonial exploitation. It was the relative luxury and advatantage of having people working the fields in a distant nation that allowed for the technological development that led to the industrial revolution in the west. It was the relative luxury, at the cost of back breaking labor in the colonies, that allowed for people to meet in salons and cafes and discuss/propogate enlightenment values. There’s some debate that enlightenment values may have developed in part due to contact with Indigineous people in the Americas since precivilization cultures are inherently more egalitarian and democratic (as communal interdependence is absolutely crucial to survival).

          My larger point is that these are human / global achivements. The idea that no attribution can be given to those who paid for them in their blood is an imperialist one. And the last thing we want to do is empower fascists / imperialists.

          You’ve already acknowledged so just expanding on your point!

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          The very notion that someone would take some kind of credit for technological advancement because they share a similar skin color with a random visionary makes me want to communicate non-verbally with these douche bags in a very forceful way.

          If you catch my drift.

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      He said “Missouri don’t like f**s.”

      When I was growing up and people were referred to as “f***y” for how they looked, he would have been called that.

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    To be honest, this has always kinda been how the conservatives in the US talk when they’re by themselves. I grew up in the 70s and heard it quite often from uptight assholes on the right.

    It’s not anything new, really. It’s just that today the communications, instead of being face to face, are online and they leave records of their conversations.

    Bigoted jackasses, gonna jackass.

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        Same and it all begins around middle school when white kids start really being openly racist around their fellow whites like myself.

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          Someone at home must be acting like that and teaching that behaviour to them.

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            No. I was legitimately shocked the first time I heard these things, as I switched schools.

            I stayed shocked until today, though I’ve had to keep hearing it in my small town. For a while in the early 2000s, it got a bit better, but starting in 2016 it ramped up to 1980s levels again.

            As a designer doing advertising work, a local bakery rebranded themselves and asked me in 2017 to redo their logo to Kathy’s Korner baKery, for instance. Of course I wouldn’t, but nobody would have asked me to do that before.

            Back in the 80s/early 90s I would have seen shit like that, but not in the early to mid 2000s.

            From my (very white girl) perspective, it seems some people have hit middle age and desperately want to return to their teens when that abhorrent behaviour was okay. Their personality has become wrapped up in it, and they think being asked to care about others is a judgement on their soul (it is, and they’re awful people), so they’re lashing out.

            They don’t understand they can learn and grow, and instead feel everyone has turned against them, so they’re doubling down. It’s actually sad.

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              I fully agree with everything you said. Do you mean that children aren’t necessarily learning racism from their parents because they are learning to be racist from society as a whole?

              Maybe I’m wrong about parenthood, but I would like to believe that any openly racist 10-13 year old kid must have racist parents, simply because any decent parent would catch on and stamp that behaviour out.

              Those pathetic, racist, middle aged people who are trying to relive their teenage years? I just met a few people like that. You’re right on the money. Those people had children too.

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                No, children are learning this from their parents, but society as a whole is moving on from this, and some insular communities are getting butthurt over it. This is part of what’s fuelling their xenophobia, actually.

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            Not necessarily. It’s the internet turning them into this for the last 20+ years or so because most white boys have had internet access longer than any other group of people.

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              I had the same experience with racist kids growing up. That was long enough ago that only nerdy kids like me cared about using the internet.

              Honestly, middle school kids usually aren’t good at hiding that kind of behaviour from their parents. Any decent parent would slap the proverbial shit out of their kid for it.

              A viciously racist 10-13 year old kid will almost always have tacit or direct approval from their parents.

              But you are right, I am certain that the internet today has been making it worse.

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                It’s especially making it worse with algorithms that affirm their beliefs so they don’t encounter as many differing views. The mass manipulation of children on a global scale scares the shit out of me.

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      Not all of them, and it probably varies by geography (getting worse the further south you go), but yeah most of them.

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        I thought the comics was clumsy satire. Turns out it’s basically straight infographics at this point.

        Great.

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        Thank you.

        I’m stunned.

        The right will boys will be boys this shit until the skies fill with the smoke of voters.

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          Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.

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          I’m stunned.

          I’m not. Kids did this shit all the time in middle and high school. These people just never ran into any kind of push back or experienced maturity

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            My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.

            Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.

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                Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.

                If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.

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              None of them were kids

              They all were at some point.

              If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.

              For a lot of these 4chan-tier chuds, the behavior was likely rewarded and encouraged. That’s how you get Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes tier freaks. We are quite literally paying these people to exist and reproduce.

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    I think the worst part of all of this, for me, is how unfunny it all is. Like goddamn, they are so bad at humor.

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    Its so weird to me how they can be both Zionist bootlickers and nazis at once, it’s impressive

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      It makes more sense when you realise that it’s about oppression, power, and creating scapegoats. Hitler’s closest allies were the not-exactly-Aryan Japanese.

      And it’s not like they won’t all turn on each other eventually, anyway. So why not have some strange bedfellows along the way?

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      Supporting Zionism while being actively antisemitic is a handy way for Nazis to encourage jewish people to segregate themselves. Zionism presents a potentially attractive place to go, and then aggressive antisemitism gives them a reason to leave. The two are not so radically opposed.

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      The Christian nationalists are deeply religious, so they see Israel as a good thing. End times or crusades or something.

      The Nazis might hate Jewish people, but they hate brown people more.

      The racists definitely hate brown people more.

      They’re all in the maga alliance and are getting along for the moment just so they can be fascists.

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      This is starting to fracture a bit with right wing traitor lunatics, but it’s for two main reasons. For some, it’s just about access to Middle East energy resources. That’s the main reason that US policy is to support Israel.

      The other thing is for true believing traitor lunatics. They think that Israel needs to exist for the rapture to occur. I don’t remember the details but this is a big part of evangelical support.

      Either way, absolute lunacy, but at least if we managed to wean off fossil fuels, support for Israel would evaporate.

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    this is a perfect example of just because it’s well known doesn’t make it fact.

    now that there is evidence, it’s a fact.

    Republicans are a party of Nazis.

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      The question remains: What are the real americans going to do about it?

      It’s not going to get better by itself, and the rest of the world can’t just come over and fix it.

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        This was news to the people who needed to hear it

        It’s another notch in the wall. We all wish the wall would come down already… But it will be painfully slow and all encompassing

        But every notch does matter

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        They have to be run out town and any that have acted on their murderous desires need to be tried for their crimes. It makes more sense why USAID was shut down though. These people are part of a death cult and the conspiracy theories are just an attempt to sanitize the murderous plans to gullible people.

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        a third of Americans voted for this and another third couldn’t be assed to stop it. this is what “real Americans” want

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          No, the things that are happening in the US right now is not really comparable to things happening in any other Western democracy. All countries have their issues, but this blatant fascist takeover occurring in the US right now is quite unique.

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            But it is a cautionary tale. Other countries aren’t trying very hard to stifle their growing far-right movements and will end up the same way if they keep giving them legitimacy. They could also more openly condemn the fascist USA instead of treating Trump as acceptable and allowing him the usual respectful state visits.

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      … were you guys not watching us politics this entire time? why are yall surprised about this group chat?