• apftwb@lemmy.world
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    Bill Clinton was an FBI informant infiltrating the cabal of shadowy pedophiles. I will literally die for Bill Clinton. See source.

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      Plus, the guy was way wrapped up in financing stuff, which just attracts other money-grubbing people anyway. Same with Harvey Weinstein, where they use the money and cloud of flies buzzing around them as the cover if they get caught. They use the ones that didn’t know about their crimes as protection. Fully disgusting, but such is the thrall of money I suppose.

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        “Thrall of money” can be rearranged to spell “holy lemon fart”.

        Every now and then I see a phrase and wonder about anagrams. Really paid off this time.

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    The same release also includes confirmation of the Trump “wonderful secret” note that he claimed was a hoax, and is currently suing the WSJ for billions for reporting on.

    Wonder if he’ll withdraw the lawsuit, or whether the whole thing was just another “it’s not a bribe, it’s a settlement” scam.

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    Frankly I love this, because now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.

    Is Bill Clinton a pedo for associating with Epstein? Or are they going to walk back all of their statements and say Clinton did nothing wrong writing a sex trafficker a birthday card?

    All the Democrats I know are fine with locking him up if evidence against him surfaces, but boy howdy is it gonna do a number on the conservatives in my life.

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      now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.

      If they weren’t shameless hypocrites, yeah. You really think they’ll have any issue saying Clinton is a pedo for associating with Epstein, while in the same breath saying Trump did nothing wrong for that exact same thing?

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    Frankly, I don’t even think Hillary gives a shit about covering for Bill at this stage- The argument that anyone is trying to protect Bill is idiotic.

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      And if she did give a shit about covering for Bill in the past and did anything to meaningfully do that, then by all means, lock her up too.

      This shouldn’t be political. I don’t care if there was a stupid slogan for that chanted by idiots, a broken clock can be right sometimes.

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        Like giving us the sitting POTUS as a candidate in the first place? Worshipping at the altar of Kissenger and Nunn? Color revos? Or any number of things during her tenure as Secretary of State?

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          Those are political things. Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

          I was thinking more along the lines of the “helping cover up pedophilia and human trafficking” thing. That’s a crime worthy of prison time.

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            She was voted out of power. And then we got Trump.

            I’m no fan of Clinton, but rather a million times her than Trump. But the US clearly needs better candidates.

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              Certainly, she would have been a better president than Trump. But that’s damning with extremely faint praise. A rotten turnip would have been a better president than Trump.

              I’ve long tried to tell Americans that they need to spend their effort on the party primaries, that’s the last chance for actual options to be considered. Once you get to the election itself the only thing left to evaluate is “which is the lesser evil?”

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            Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

            Everything is political, my friend. She should absolutely face consequences for her role in the heinous war crimes committed while she was secretary of state.

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              We’ve got literal piles of active Nazis and you want to go after Hillary for doing status quo shit.

              Yeah, okay. Let me add her to the list. I think I’ve got a spot here at #187.

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                Don’t worry, I want to go after the fascists. But I reject the assertion that making life worse for Americans is somehow more morally wrong than making life worse for Libyans. In fact, I will go so far as to say that if you are willing to hand wave away atrocities as “status quo shit” then it makes sense that fascism is where things end up.

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      I don’t know if that was a marriage of convenience/business since the beginning, but it sure seems to have got there eventually.

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    The good thing about both parties hating progressives is that no one circles the wagons to protect progressives.

    Anthony Weiner was immediately persona non grata when his allegations came out.

    Progressive perverts get no protection because both parties want them gone, so there’s no backlog.

    Meanwhile, republicans and centrists alike participated in a culture of protecting reprehensible predators in order to hold on to power that might otherwise be vested in people who give a shit about the poor.

    There is some credit to be given in that no one seems to be circling the wagons for clinton now, but he’s already served his purpose: 8 years of triangulating with the right.

    Wonder how many centrists are sitting in awkward silence and how much of the “fine, lock clinton up too” sentiment is coming from progressives.

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    Lock him up if there’s enough evidence of a crime. After going after Trump. I don’t care about party or celeb status if they did such things.

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    The new take: “Epstein was a popular rich guy, everyone knew him and wished him well! It doesn’t mean they ‘knew’ him! Nobody knew what he and Ghislane were up to!”

    But it doesn’t matter. The oligarchs don’t pay for their crimes. They don’t even get charged. Do you want to see them pay? I hear there’s a discount on pitchforks recently seeing as there’s nobody to work the fields.

    No oppressors ever walked away peacefully at the request of the oppressed. Just sayin’

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      The new take: “Epstein was a popular rich guy, everyone knew him and wished him well! It doesn’t mean they ‘knew’ him! Nobody knew what he and Ghislane were up to!”

      Not exactly “new”. The recognition that guilt by association is a fallacy and a hallmark of an undeveloped, irrational mentality has been around for a while. The unsound indulgence of biases such as confirmation bias & emotional reasoning is justly criticized.

      If you want to discredit your position though, and make serious inquiry look bad so people can point at you & say

      See? These people are irrational! How can we take them seriously?

      then this is a great way to do it.

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    Fuckin’ great, lock his old ass up too.

    Throwback, also, to the Lemmy fake-leftist who was pretending that back in the 1990s him and all his activist friends were super excited for Bill Clinton and all his leftist politics, and lecturing me about how far the Democratic Party has fallen since then. Fuckin’ what lol. I was around for it, literally 0 of us were as excited about Bill Clinton and his balanced budget as this guy was pretending that him and all the left were back then.