The amount of screen size reflects the amount of work you do. So a smaller size has become a status signal. Showing you do not actually work.
You do meetings
*(Percieved) importance.
I beg to differ, I’m a corporate slave on a 13" laptop
I don’t have a phone. I just witness. I am posting this by sheer force of will. Someone hire me as you CEO.
Its almost as if the more real work you do, the less you matter.
I wonder what would happen if the higher up in a company you get, the less you got payed. I’d imagine more actual work would be accomplished.
The higher you go the closer you get to the people who actually controls the capital. The CEO can have a personal relationship with the board, people who do actual work are merely a number to the higher-ups.
The CEO is usually on the board and a lot of the other board members will also be CEOs but yes
It saddens me the fact that there are people out there wanting to do more work.
The game is rigged. Do nothing and get paid.
Just had a conversation with someone on this last weekend. They’re what I call someone dependent on corporate daycare. They need to be working or they lack self value. Their boss is an ass, hardly works and this guy thinks he’s slacking at 12 hours a day (exaggerated only a little).
What are you doing that is so important? Is it saving someone’s life? Life changing cancer drugs? No no, it’s a PowerPoint that shows the progress on the projects of equally less important tasks that is only making your boss look good.
And the fucker still thinks he’s not WORKING HARD ENOUGH!!
Agree with you but depends on where someone work. It’s rare but some work are undeniably positive to the society.
Have you been watching me at work?
I wouldn’t be in the field if I didn’t enjoy the work.
However I’ve positioned myself to make sure no work is ever unpaid, unless it’s for my own future startup idea.
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Perfecting the art of brown-nosing.
Importance, or lack of work contribution? Smaller screen = works less.
Importance as in payment, probably
It’s the same thing. The workers work, management just makes sure the workers work.
They’ll say that their work is mainly talking to other people
Which is why they believe AI is the future.
It does everything they do.
Produce slop
Disgusting.
Well, if the company gets fined for mismanaging or committing fraud, who do you think they will fire?
A scapegoat is very important.
who do you think they will fire?
10 to 20 percent of the workforce, so the CEO still can get a bonus.
Exactly. This is America. 40% and install AI if it’s 2025 or later.
Yuuuup. My last company let go of 20% in a single round of layoffs
True for the phone and tablet, but for any sort of computer that is not true
I work on a laptop with virtual desktops and I am much more productive that way than with a big screen… Or two big screens.
Everything is in the center of my field of view, I know which VD of my 3x3 grid holds what. It’s much more efficient for me than bigger screens could ever be. And that is not for lack of trying!
It just depends on the person.
You just changed how I think about virtual screens. I feel like Khan being unloaded on by Kirk.
I decided long ago that I liked the single monitor with multiple desktops. But in my head they have always been a line of desktops instead of a grid.
Somewhere there is a mathematician who uses a hyper cube array of desktops…
When I discovered it can be arranged in a grid, it made VDs so much more useful.
Cause a line of the same amount of VDs (9)… Ugh, not fun haha
Even though you can map each to a shortcut, it’s still tougher to use than a grid with directional shortcuts!
How do you have your shortcuts set up for this? And if you don’t mind me asking, what desktop environment / window manager are you using?
I am using KDE’s Plasma 6 as a DE with Wayland. The compositor (window managers are a Xorg thing) is KWin
The shortcuts I use are Meta+Up/Down/Left/Right. I can’t remember if they’re default or if I set them this way.
I’ll often have documentation on another monitor, so I can full-screen my code and still reference the documentation without switching windows.
I prefer to switch down to the VD with the doc on fullscreen than noving my head to another monitor
Grid VDs club. Although I only use 2x2 because toggle up/down/righ/left is complicated enough for my brain.
Maybe a cross setup would work for you if you ever need a 5th VD :)
VDs arranged in a grid ? Why ?
Faster switch. Think each column being 1-3 and each row as A-C
B2 is my terminals, B3 is my IDE, B1 is a secondary IDE (for instance, DataGrip), C row is browser windows, A1-2 is temporary, not often used windows, A3 is communication apps. I mostly use A3, B2-3 and C2-3. It’s all mapped in my head so I can instantly switch to whichever VD I need.
That’s impressive
Personally I never needed more than 5 desktops, and I don’t think I could remember what I put on more desktops
Haha that’s fair
Although it’s a habit thing. Most of these are fixed, I never switch them to a different position. So the only ones I have to remember is A1-2 if I am using them, the rest is as easy as knowing where your glasses are stored in your cupboards.
Exactly, this is why the most ‘important’ person just uses a phone they are the most efficient with the smallest screen
The job of people around the CEO is primarily to make decisions. All this huge chain of managers is needed only to aggregate information so that the CEO can make an informed decision. This is how many large companies operate. I would even say that there is a direct correlation between the size of the campaign and the number of monitors at the bottom.
The flip side of sitting behind a huge monitor is that you won’t stay outside with a huge number of your employees if you make the wrong decision. It’s just a different job.
Your description is basically of a “spherical CEO in a vacuum”, ie. the ideal and abstract version of how corporations should operate. It has very little to do with reality
Well, I can only write from my own experience. I’ve worked for several major campaigns in my life. In banks, in telecom operators. And it’s almost always been like this. And where there was none, the campaign collapsed. Not in a moment, of course, because campaigns, like people, do not die instantly, but age and degrade. But as a result, it was.
When you say campaign are you meaning company?
Yes. Sorry, I still don’t speak English well, so I use Google Translate.
No worries! I thought I understood, but I just wanted to check.
Have you worked with very many CEOs at SMEs? Based on my experience it seems to match the description, by and large.
I’ve been a C-suite executive, and I’ve worked with executives (incl. CEOs) at public companies.
Not only is there often a thermocline of truth that stops “bad” information going up the chain, CEOs more often than not make decisions based on nothing but their own opinions, and they will more than happily discard any information that doesn’t already fit that opinion, and even if negative things do manage to reach them from the other side of the thermocline, they often discount it or explain it away
Interesting, my experience has been quite different but then it has been more with executives of relatively small (<500) and private companies. I’ve also seen some cases of companies closer to dictatorships, but they have (at least from my external perspective) seemed like dictators with at least clear visions. A small minority have been loudmouthed assholes.
there is a direct correlation between the size of the campaign and the number of monitors at the bottom.
From my limited experience, it’s the size/amount of monitors at the top that correlates with company size, not at the bottom. At my 5-person software company, almost everyone works with multiple screens, except one of the three founders who still works mainly on a laptop display at least
I have three monitors. FUCK.
I have eight. 🤡
Ok I just wana know your hardware setup. Not really the monitors but what you are doing for video output. Assuming either specialized cards with alot of dvi outputs(mini dvi?) or multiple gpus or even just dvi dasiychain?
I’m counting laptop screens as 1 and externals as 1.
3 laptops all with secondary monitors and two surface devices attached to my wall.
the surfaces are displaying system monitoring and portfolio details
laptop a is for job a
laptop b is for job b
laptop c is personal
Most monitors has got to be the security guard’s CCTV, so it does track!
Same. No wonder I’m burnt out. The human brain can only handle so many screens at the same time :/
They got you taking care of the cockroach problem in the basement?
And they took his stapler
I bring a portable screen from home, bringing me to a total of 4 with the laptop screen.
But I just like lots of monitors
Eh, as a dev I prefer just notebook screen over multiple screens
Same, I’m also a dev who prefers working off a notebook screen. This fact boggles the minds of my coworkers, especially my boss who seems mortally offended that I only work on one screen.
I guess that means I’ve broken the social norms of a corporate slave?
It’s okay to have a wrong opinion.
(Don’t take this seriously)
I feel it. I excitedly set up my side monitor in portrait mode for coding ages ago, but turns out I barely ever use it. Instead, I just use it for Discord or random youtube videos playing on the side while I do all my work on the main monitor…
Every time the CEO walks by he thinks “that guy has upper management written all over him”.
What if you prefer both ends of the scale? I’ll take as many monitors as HR will allow, but I will also kidnap a microsoft surface from the ewaste pile as it is so damn handy when you need to go to a location to fix things that dont have a spot to set a laptop.
This is true up until a point, and then the pattern starts to reverse. Like, the receptionist isn’t going to get 2 monitors. They’re likely to get one monitor and a very old desktop, or an old laptop.
Edit: Also an intern / co-op student / work experience student, etc. is probably as low as you can go on the totem pole of office work. I bet in many cases they’re not even assigned a permanent office / cubicle since they’re expected to shadow / be mentored by a variety of people. As a result, they probably get a second-hand, used laptop.
And, if the company has retail sales, techs who do installations, etc. they’re often very low on the totem pole, and they’re often not getting a computer at all. Maybe in some cases they’d get a “work phone”, so they’d have the same kind of equipment as the CEO, but effectively be at the opposite end of the pole from them.
And sometimes you have techbro CEO who has like a video wall for no particularly good reason.
Sometimes, rich people like to cosplay being poor and unimportant.
It’s like, I have a 13" laptop, a 15" inch one, and two monitors at my desk with a dock… But so the my director… Actually, he doesn’t have the 13" one! Am I actually the director?
Which do you use most often?
A CEO might have a nice desktop, but is always out playing golf and so mostly uses his phone.
Forget using his phone screen, all an important CEO needs is wireless earbuds
Heh, I bet if you’re the CEO of a megacorp, you might not even carry your own electronics. You just have a gaggle of assistants around you who you bark orders at, and then they use their electronics to do something.
There are exceptions. My ex CEO and his nepo kids demanded ultrawides so they could more efficiently watch Fox News and get scammed by horny MILFS in their area that want to hook up NOW.
Hi, it’s me. Two Monitor Man.
I’m ultrawide…
And nobody would have known if you never said anything.
A bit higher up is an old-school dial phone. And even higher is a dial phone without the actual dial
Boss needs to get a hold of Plaza 1234 right away.
I was thinking more of a red phone kind of hotline, but this is even better LMAO
And, at the top, they just talk to people, like a mafia don.
Nah, above him is the guy who doesn’t even talk, just makes graffiti that puts the right messages directly into people’s subconsciousness.
And at the very top there’s a guy who returned to monke and only does primal grunts
Ya. The CEO has a person that has a phone and a laptop.
Value is not the same as importance
What bout monitor + lappy or biblically accurate computers
When you have three monitors followed by two floating monitors above those on arms. A laptop on the side table neck to you. Your phone right below your keyboard and the tablet on top of the laptops keyboard.
You have reached peak screenage.
also smart watch