I wonder what the proportional value is of all the actionable data that’s ever been extracted from date lakes versus the cost of gathering it all. Probably not even as good as people think given the difficulty of evaluating that as a metric.
More like Buys the same data from Meta but okay.
China doesn’t need TikTok to get your data. They can just buy it from data brokers, lol.
Or sell you ads AND not have to pay for it, while also influencing us algorithmically directly. If that’s even the case, that is, which, who even fucking knows anymore. And I’m not even sure we needed tiktok to be pissed at wrongdoings everywhere, including Chinese government wrongdoings. Honestly, tiktok’s algorithm is better than basically any other algorithmic app right now, save for the fact that it obviously is getting very up to date information through my phone somehow.
More like “keep your nazis”. The place is fucking infested and every report comes back with “no violation” for literal double lightning bolts and posting that one anti-semetic wojak.
Can I just brag for a moment? I feel like I am among my people, and there is a little lesson at the end.
to calibrate: White dude in my 40s, nerdy by nature but non-technical in my education/employment
Twitter - signed up in the early 2000s when it first came out, pretty much stopped using by 2011
Facebook - signed up in the early 2000s when it first got big, pretty much stopped using by 2011, deleted my abandoned account last year
Google +, I’m sure I never signed up, but I had an account that I never used. Google being google negated me ever having to contemplate whether or not I would ever use it
Snapchat - never used
TikTok - never used
Instagram - never used
Are there others? I don’t know.
Reddit was the only “social media” I ever used for a sustained period of time and the only one where I felt part of any sort of community. I left reddit in June of 2023 when I made this account and I’ve never been back.
So, in many ways, I am successfully resisting/avoiding “the algorithm” and I am a good example of high media literacy with good resistance to manipulation by social media.
But, just to emphasize why community itself is so valuable and worthy of exploitation by techbros, here are life changes I’ve made since joining Lemmy, even without any algorithms or dark patterns. Not that Lemmy is strictly causal in all of these, but the relationship is there:
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I am now making my way through TNG, and am generally more Trek-literate
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Linux, natch
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Cancelled all streaming services (honestly most ‘subscription services’) in favor of a NAS running Plex (for now, will probably move to Jellyfin), Calibre, AudioBookshelf, Immich, Joplin, NextCloud, etc, etc, etc
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Now using Steam Deck as my daily driver for gaming
In other words, though I prize my independent thinking and avoidance of Big Cloud, and though I think all of these are positive changes representing a positive influence, I am clearly impressionable. And so are you.
I never even signed up for Twitter.
The modern internet makes me want to live in a cave and grow moss.
That isn’t an accident.
There is this insight that I remember reading about internet scams, that they are poor quality with lots of misspelling by design. According to what I’ve read, this acts as a useful filter: If you’re smart enough to pick up on things like misspellings, we don’t want to waste our time scamming you.
That is now essentially the entire ethos of the modern internet.
Got you beat. 40’s dude who’s never used any social media except for reddit (if that counts). I also have never used a smart phone.
It seems like you got your taste of social media, decided you were essentially done with it and moved on.
I am just about in the same boat, I feel social media doesn’t offer me much that I value, and so I have been looking elsewhere.
twitter early 2000s
2006 counts as early 2000s and not mid 2000s?
There is a lot of heated debate about this. They’re saying due to COVID, that “early” can mean anything from 0-8 now, which obviously I don’t understand but what can you do? They are saying it.
I must assume from your helpful correction that 2006 is the actual year twitter came out but even then I literally cannot be arsed to look that up on purpose because, I cannot stress this enough, I very much do not care about social media, as per my comment. So if you say 2006, that is what we’re going with.
There is a lot of heated debate about this. They’re saying due to COVID, that “early” can mean anything from 0-8 now
I would love to hear the logic behind that
Me too but, sadly: paywalled. That’s how they get you.
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I already get the same thing from the YouTube app which won’t shut the fuck up about Shorts
I don’t get Shorts. I can’t watch them on my PlayStation, if I click on one on the phone app it’ll disconnect the PlayStation and force me to watch it on my phone.
If you try to upload a video that is less than a minute long, it forces you to do Shorts.
I also don’t get why opening up a community thread or something pauses the video I’m watching on the PlayStation.
I’ve also noticed lately that when I connect the phone app with the PlayStation, about 30% of the time, the video will play extremely slow without sound. I have to close and reboot the YouTube app on the PlayStation to watch anything afterwards.
Uninstalling that app was a game changer…so much better on browser with unblock origin running.
Uuuuuse a foss youtube frontend wooooooo like freetube or pipepipe woooooooooo…
(Insert other ghostly noises)
Fr if something works in browser I will never use the app.
Some exceptions for things which require better encryption.
YouTube shorts are fantastic. You have to be into misogyny though.
Interesting. All it shows me are cats, hair cut/dying, coffee, animals being silly, and comedic videos.
I get IDKsterling, shorts by miniminuteman, institute for justice, tasting history, stuff like that, then occasional cat/funny/meme videos that are largely benign
Mine was all this anti-women stuff, so I closed it and never looked back.
Did you enable saving history, custom recommendations…?
My shorts are just cats and dogs acting silly and the rare REPO clip…
I sign out to view shorts, clear site data, then manually search a couple of “seed” videos I like to get the algorithm picking out new stuff.
It won’t even show you anything unless you have some viewing history. It’s just straight up broken for people who have had accounts for many years.
Lol that’s close to what I do. It used to show you videos based on your likes and subs even with eatch history off but now they will refuse.
So I just temporarily turned on history, watch some seeds, then turn it off again, and voila, it suggests based on likes and subs just like before.
Teleporno: Tell me where is Godric? For I much desire to know his secrets.
I have a Xiaomi phone. They already know everything about me.
My gf had xiaomi once. Had to visit the doctors a lot before it cleared up.
Haha this joke is funny because foreigners have funny words and sound stupid
Ayyyy!
I like some of the content, but will not download the app either. I mostly just want to talk to other people anyway. The funny pictures and videos are just a bonus. That’s why I am here and not much else; this site is setup better for actually engaging with the users.
I mean, I have it installed, but I have it installed in a “sandbox” (Co-opting androids work profile feature) I use Insular
But looking now, it seems it hasn’t been updated in a year so I might have to look for an alternative soon if it has issues when I upgrade to Android 16 lol
Look into Shelter, it works on latest Android though it’s been several months since the last update.
Big brain move, let’s make them buy our data from someone else. 🙌
Better to get your data spied on by China than by the USA who might share it with your home country 👀
See this implies that your home country is more likely to rob and kill you than China, which simply isn’t true in 9/10 cases.
What? How is china likely to rob or kill me, or you?
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Pig Butchering Scams
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Invasion/War
I see we’re just making stuff up at this point lmao
You think this is some gotcha but it has absolutely no meaning to anyone outside of your conspiracy bubble
Supposed to be the picture of oyghurs I believe
- So some isolated dudes = whole china? Bro wake up, everyone is scamming. The real scammers are in poor countries and Trump making market manipulation. Hell, dropshipping is a massive scam, and it’s not done by China…
- What? China isn’t really involved in a war, unlike many other countries, including USA and Israel
China has not armed Pakistan to attack India. China has not attacked ships and satellites outside of their territory. China has not conquered multiple neighboring nations recently. China is not allied with North Korea who is constantly launching missiles across the bay. There is no war in China.
/Sarcasm
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I believe you are far more likely to be killed by your home country than china in just about every case, simply by the fact that you live there and they have permanent access to you. By no means is it a great place, but china is not exactly out there sending hit men to take out some random Joe because of the videos they were watching.
No, that’s not why they want to take you out. If it were they wouldn’t have sent you the videos.
Except in this timeline
They still know your name, phone number, relationships, and every piece of info ever supplied to or from you in a text message going back as far as it is recorded on every phone which has ever downloaded the app. Your mother, your brother, your sister, your ex.
It’s a cruel and terrible world for those who aren’t ignorant.
They still know your name, phone number, relationships, and every piece of info ever supplied to or from you in a text message going back as far as it is recorded on every phone which has ever downloaded the app.
Only because they bought the info off Microsoft, Facebook, and Google.
It’s a cruel and terrible world for those who aren’t ignorant.
At some point, being terminally anxious over the idea that a Chinese bureaucrat has access to a stack of high school yearbooks does nothing of benefit. There’s a long term material benefit to simply staying off social media (particularly the bigger instances) in a few rare but critical circumstances (getting a high security job, avoiding being hassled by the police). But for virtually everyone else, none of this shit matters.
TikTokChinaTeleMessage Israel or anyone really
China is a perfect communist motherland that doesn’t need anyones secrets!
Yes, I also love China and their all-seeing government.
