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    If this is true, then we should prepare to be shout at by chatgpt why we didnt knew already that simple error.

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        Hey ChatGPT, how can I …

        “Locking as this is a duplicate of [unrelated question]”

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          Chatgpt is going to get trained on thinking those two questions are duplicates and end up giving bullshit outdated answers to every question.

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        And then links to a similar sounding but ultimately totally unrelated site.

      • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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        Always love those answers, well if you read the 700 page white paper on this one command set in one module then you would understand… do you think I have the time to read 37000 pages of bland ass documentation yearly on top of doing my actual job? Come the fuck on.

        I guess some of these guys have so many heads on their crews that they don’t have much work to do anymore but that’s not the case for most

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      You joke.

      This would have been probably early last year? Had to look up how to do something in fortran (because fortran) and the answer was very much in the voice of that one dude on the Intel forums who has been answering every single question for decades(?) at this point. Which means it also refused to do anything with features newer than 1992 and was worthless.

      Tried again while chatting with an old work buddy a few months back and it looks like they updated to acknowledging f99 and f03 exist. So assume that was all stack overflow.

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    Take all you want, it will only take a few hallucinations before no one trusts LLMs to write code or give advice

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      […]will only take a few hallucinations before no one trusts LLMs to write code or give advice

      Because none of us have ever blindly pasted some code we got off google and crossed our fingers ;-)

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        It’s way easier to figure that out than check ChatGPT hallucinations. There’s usually someone saying why a response in SO is wrong, either in another response or a comment. You can filter most of the garbage right at that point, without having to put it in your codebase and discover that the hard way. You get none of that information with ChatGPT. The data spat out is not equivalent.

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          That’s an important point, and and it ties into the way ChatGPT and other LLMs take advantage of a flaw in the human brain:

          Because it impersonates a human, people are more inherently willing to trust it. To think it’s “smart”. It’s dangerous how people who don’t know any better (and many people that do know better) will defer to it, consciously or unconsciously, as an authority and never second guess it.

          And the fact it’s a one on one conversation, no comment sections, no one else looking at the responses to call them out as bullshit, the user just won’t second guess it.

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            Your thinking is extremely black and white. Many many, probably most actually, second guess chat bot responses.

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        Split segment of data without pii to staging database, test pasted script, completely rewrite script over the next three hours.

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    It will not make a difference. The internet is free and open by design. You can always scrape the internet any time. A partnership will do nothing but make it a little bit more convenient for them.

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    First, they sent the missionaries. They built communities, facilities for the common good, and spoke of collaboration and mutual prosperity. They got so many of us to buy into their belief system as a result.

    Then, they sent the conquistadors. They took what we had built under their guidance, and claimed we “weren’t using it” and it was rightfully theirs to begin with.

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      These companies don’t realise their most engaged users generate a disproportionate amount of their content.

      They will just go to their own spaces.

      I think this a good thing in the long run, the internet will become decentralised again.

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    If i was stack overflow I would’ve transferred my backups to OpenAI weeks before the announcement for this very reason.

    This is also assuming the LLMs weren’t already fed with scraped SO data years ago.

    It’s a small act of rebellion but SO already has your data and they’ll do whatever they want with it, including mine.

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    Oh I didn’t consider deleting my answers. Thanks for the good idea Barbra StackOverflow.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zipBanned from community
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        I think the reason for those bans is that they don’t want you rebelling and are showing that they don’t need you personally, thus ban.

        Of course it’s all retained.

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    Reddit/Stack/AI are the latest examples of an economic system where a few people monetize and get wealthy using the output of the very many.

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    Maybe we should replace Stack Overflow with another site where experts can exchange information? We can call it “Experts Exchange”.

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    While at the same time they forbid AI generated answers on their website, oh the turntables.

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      "the AI isn’t good enough to answer questions yet, it needs more training "

      “YOU HYPOCRITE!! If the A.I is too bad to use then why are you training it!”

      Clean the damn mold out of your brain.

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        what about instances that need you to be logged in to view posts and require authorized requests for federation?

        • Aux@lemmy.worldBannedBanned from community
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          That defeats the purpose of a knowledge base. The whole reason why everyone is using SO is that you don’t need an account to access it and it’s fully indexed by Google.

          The real question is why the fuck are people ok with Google indexing SO and not OpenAI? Doesn’t make any fucking sense.

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            The real question is why the fuck are people ok with Google indexing SO and not OpenAI? Doesn’t make any fucking sense.

            Because Google is free and OpenAI isn’t. It’s one thing to take free content, index it, then allow anyone to access that index. It’s another thing when you take free content, index it, then hide that index behind a paywall.

            • Aux@lemmy.worldBannedBanned from community
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              Are you sure? Because Google is not free at all, you’re paying for it through privacy invasion and ads. While ChatGPT is actually free to use for end users - no ads, nothing.

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                The price difference is that google steals your data. That’s it. OpenAI steals data, ask for money to use most of their models, and buy even more data from other companies stealing user data (like google and SO). Also indexing web pages is not even the “stealing” part of google, it’s just not comparable.

                Yes, training AI on user data for free then selling the end product is a reasonable thing to be concerned about. It’d be different if the product was free or the data was sold to them with user consent.

                SO has announced a subscription-based service trained on user data for free, and not only there’s not even opt-out, they’re mass-banning users for trying to “opt-out” manually. Tell me one thing here that’s not completely fucked up.

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                  But it’s free. Unlike Google.

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    See, this is why we can’t have nice things. Money fucks it up, every time. Fuck money, it’s a shitty backwards idea. We can do better than this.