Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.
Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE
So what’s this bullshit called now cause justice is not the correct word.
The American Nazi party deletes documents showing their supporters are pieces of shit… Who could have ever seen this coming.
Every German who went to school after 1945, for one.
Every German who went to school after
1945, for one.More like 1980.
In the immediate aftermath of World War II, there was a widespread reluctance among Germans to acknowledge the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime. However, this began to change in the 1960s and 1970s, as a new generation of Germans began to grapple with the legacy of their country’s past. The first efforts to teach about the Holocaust in German schools began in the 1980s, and since then, the curriculum has continued to evolve to better reflect the complexities of this history.
https://knowgermany.com/do-they-teach-about-the-holocaust-in-germany/
The New World Order cannot tolerate evidence that doesn’t comply!
conspiracy beliefs is the gateway to being alt right in general.
What happened to her face?
Just a normal hateful face.
Oh wow… Hey I just learned that water is wet btw.
On a comical note, a liquid’s ability to hold onto a solid surface can be considered “wet”.
There has been considerable scientific and philosophical debate on whether “water is wet”, or if “liquids make solids wet on contact”.
There, learned yet a other thing today!
(Yes. The news content has unfortunately become trite. I understood the sarcasm!)
A post truth regime.
If we delete and hide the evidence does it really exist?
What scares me is that Trump did this with Arctic temperature data
Down the memory hole…
Just stop testing
I was gonna say, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.
The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that’s coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.
It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.
I feel exactly the same. When TACO says he’s going to lower drug prices 1200% and nobody pushes back or he threatens a news agency and they just say ok. Like fitting people for just saying what Kirk said, while he was celebrated for it just blows me away. No fight at all, just rolling over so easy. Only Harvard seemed to put up a fight.
I feel ya, you keep thinking that there is no way this is real, and yet it is
I have no words honestly. Ever since the Kirk shooting, things are spiralling further down and getting to a point of no return. I think war is going to erupt soon between fascist far-right groups and everyone else. Not just in the U.S., but in Canada, too.
its not going to be a war because the left refuses to fight. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a genocide though.
Don’t confuse not being an ammo sexual with not fighting.
I’m afraid you might be right. Although I think that some specificities of canadian culture might help us or at least slow down those changes.
I dunno. Hate groups have become much more bolder and appearing in public spaces. Have their own podcasts and their own media networks (Rebel News and Ezra Levant, etc.) They’re also forming militias, training for combat and firearm use, and even infiltrating the military forces to recruit new members. Source Source 2 Bands with allegiances to these groups have also produced music with hate speech and racist lyrics, talking about bringing back gas chambers, etc. This is no joke.
The right wing are bad people and we need to stop pretending it’s just a difference of opinion. They in several fundamental ways suck.
And yet everyone’s all like “oh Goebbels was a gifted marketer and father we can’t say mean things”. Fuck 'em. They can choose to stop being shit any time they want. Until then, they deserve nothing but scorn.
“We” are not maintaining the delusion that the right wing monsters are legitimate. It’s the media that has pretended these far right extremist positions are sane, and has elevated them to prominence. If they were honest about how loathsome and unamerican right wing ideals are, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Media corpos are typically run by right wingers, and are massive for-profit companies that make a killing on running election ads (presently a ~20Bn industry cyclic every 4 years), so it shouldn’t be a huge surprise that they do this. And now the Trump admin has weaponized the DOJ to go after them for any criticism at all, so this phenomenon is on steroids currently.
I strongly agree with your last sentence. The media, other politicians, etc - nobody is going to hold right wingers accountable for us. Unfortunately, we have to do it ourselves, to their dumb faces, and force them to face the uncomfortable truths of their reprehensible actions. Good luck, be strong, and find ways to consistently stand up for the morally correct positions. Keeping pressure up this way is a vital component to how we can win.
I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.
What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.
There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.
Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.
As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.
Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.
77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what’s going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.
Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it’s really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren’t registered feel politically, but it’s probably safe to assume if they can’t be bothered to vote, they’re probably not down for the civil war remix.
Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It’s hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that’s only 35 million people or 11% of the population.
They’re really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren’t that many of them. There are far more people who don’t care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.
Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.
I’m told there were about 500 mass shootings (4 or more people) last year. So we’re pretty close.
And I don’t think it’s 52%. A lot of people don’t vote or update their voter records. But there does seem to be a frothy core that’s getting high on hating people.
I think conservatives are more insular, too. If you live in a city and actually see and interact with other kinds of people, its harder to hate them as monsters.
It’s more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don’t vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don’t actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.
I tried to find a study I read a year or two ago about how informed voters were. It kind of shocked me that it was really close between the Rs and the Ds. Neither voter was particularly well-informed, just tribal.
I’d like to see that study, it does not match my personal experience.
there is no reason to give the majority of those people the benefit of the doubt. Humans can have large groups with oppressive opinions. A large segment of Germans supported the nazi’s, a large section of Israel thinks gaza isn’t being destroyed harshly enough and a large sections of americans currently believe in massive oppression.
Goebbels was a great father, how dare you?
How many fathers can claim they killed their own children because he was a little bitch?
He couldn’t stand to spend a day in the afterlife without his children with him. Doesn’t his love just bring a tear to your eye?
If more fascists in this country thought the way Goebbels did, we’d have less fascists in this country.
Joseph Goebbels was a Nazi, and he poisoned his 6 kids at the end of the war before also committing suicide… Nobody is saying that about him, and I know where you got that phrase from too…I literally just read the article on lemmy. So I dont know why you’re using it since its out of context.
You can criticize people without making shit up…
Own it you fucking twats.
That’s so perfectly typicsl for the right.
It’s really very simple - if the evidence shows that one of their beliefs is wrong, then their principles dictate that they have no choice but to… bury the evidence.
Not solely a right tactic. You also see this with product studies sponsored by big corporations.
Sort of.
I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it’s a simple business strategy. It’s not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it’s just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.
But for right-wingers, it’s some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that’ll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They’ll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?
Their feelings don’t care about the facts
Here is an archive of the DOJ site in question. They had to be sure they took it down before Vance hopped on Kirk’s nazi podcast to spout lies claiming the opposite of objective reality.
Can’t be letting pesky facts get in the way of them abolishing the Democratic party.
Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions.[3]
Quintez Brown attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, Craig Greenberg, in February 2022. Brown was motivated by Black nationalism, pan-Africanism and revolutionary socialism.
I dunno, to me revolutionary socialism is something I equate with “the left”.
Still, 1 out of 30 ain’t bad.
Yeah:
“The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown.”
So they did acknowledge it, but kind of gave it a pass because he wasn’t “affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation”.
I think it’s still a bit up in the air about whether Tyler Robinson had a consistent ideology. He is 22, an age where political leanings can be all over the place and evolve pretty rapidly. Whatever the case, it seems he operated alone. So we can consider how much online rhetoric influenced him one way or another, but it doesn’t seem like there was any organizational pressure or even a forum that had a chance to talk him into or out of his plan.
The article does make a broader point well supported by data, broadly speaking the right has gotten more violent and we don’t see a similar pattern on the left. No matter which way Tyler lands or just attributed to less ostensibly political ideology, I think the trend is still valid. It’s somewhat less dangerous if they can definitively establish him as a Fuentes like, but I fear he might be credibly “grown out of it”.
I also think we can’t overlook his upbringing. Growing up in a conservative household and raised to use guns from a young age, his decision to kill Charlie Kirk stems from that upbringing. Even if his politics happened to deviate from that of his parents, which is still in the realm of speculation right now, he was only using the tools and the methodology that he was given.
No doubt left-wing terrorism has happened. Just much less frequent and deadly.
