• fluxion@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    That was not a ghetto uprising, that was unchecked violence against Israeli civilians by terrorists. You do Gaza’s suffering civilians no justice by tying their plight to the actions of Hamas on Oct 7. Their only crime is existing.

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      20 hours ago

      not interested in your respectability politics shit, the American enablers have contributed far more to the suffering civilians than Hamas ever has by resisting their extermination.

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        20 hours ago

        Not interested in your bullshit takes that would only incite more violence against the Gaza civilians by painting Oct 7 as a popular uprising.

        Honestly think before you speak if you actually care about these people.

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              17 hours ago

              the history starts before 1948.

              20 months since Palestine attacked Israel setting off a war.

              which is it? It’s almost like you’re just another westerner defending a genocide via selective reading of history

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            20 hours ago

            They are NOT resisting, these are innocent civilians… I don’t give a shit about Hamas I’m talking about women and children dying in Gaza. How is there disagreement on this basic acknowledgement of reality?

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              Israel is committing a genocide, as all settler colonial states eventually do, no disagreement there.

              The disagreement is over whether Palestinians have a right to resist settler colonialism and forced displacement. International law and natural law says they do, it is obvious, but people who live in settler colonial states that were successful in eradicating the indigenous population won’t make that inconvenient admission.

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                19 hours ago

                No but these people are so dense that i have to spell it out like that so they understand the difference I’m drawing between Hamas/combatants/uprising vs. women and children living peacefully in their homes and not harming anyone on this planet but still getting bombs dropped on their heads. But still it’s on deaf ears.

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          Hey here comes the comfortable westerner to tell everyone what they think is bad optics.

          This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support. Hand-wrining about “terrorism” only serves defending the perpetrators while posing like you care about victims.

          Sickening behavior really, but I’m used to it by now. American soldiers are terrorists, IDF are terrorists.

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            19 hours ago

            This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support

            I mean… No. This has been happening for 80+ fucking years and Israel would be doing it with or without US support.

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              19 hours ago

              They would certainly be trying, but it’s a lot harder to exterminate a captive population when you aren’t getting supplied a whole arsenal to do so.

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                They would certainly be trying, but it’s a lot harder to exterminate a captive population when you aren’t getting supplied a whole arsenal to do so.

                Yes, I’m sure that captive populations aren’t regularly exterminated without the backing of major MICs.

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                  This genocide could never happen without the American uniparty shitheads enabling it for decades.

                  Ok… So a bit different than “it would never happen”

                  I said:

                  This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support

                  Without their support it would be a different one, maybe get better at reading or something

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                    Without their support it would be a different one, maybe get better at reading or something

                    Without US support, Israel would be genociding… who, exactly? What ‘different’ genocide would it be, if not the genocide that’s been going on since 1948, long before US aid was a major factor?

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            19 hours ago

            It’s not about bad optics, you are literally doing what Israel is doing by equating Gaza civilians as “combatants” and thus making them targets. These people had nothing to do with Oct 7 I’m talking about little children and doctors and mothers and teachers and you’re on about this fucking freedom fighter uprising bullshit because you’re more concerned with justifying violence against Israel than caring about how many kids get bombed and starve to death in Gaza.

            Fuck that bullshit.

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              You are the one making excuses for the occupation by calling their victims terrorists. A ghetto uprising describes the conditions accurately. You are the one doing the work of Israel by pretending that they have ever discriminated between ‘combatants’ and everyone else.

              I guess feigning moral superiority must be how you sleep at night after a long day of jorkin it to Ukraine war killcams or whatever it is you weirdos do for fun.

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                19 hours ago

                I see, we are on 2 different topics here.

                Have fun justifying Oct 7. I’ll pass on that bullshit.

                I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza today, where 50,000 who had nothing to do with Oct 7 or any sort of “uprising” whatsoever have been killed.