• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        17 hours ago

        the history starts before 1948.

        20 months since Palestine attacked Israel setting off a war.

        which is it? It’s almost like you’re just another westerner defending a genocide via selective reading of history

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      20 hours ago

      They are NOT resisting, these are innocent civilians… I don’t give a shit about Hamas I’m talking about women and children dying in Gaza. How is there disagreement on this basic acknowledgement of reality?

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        Israel is committing a genocide, as all settler colonial states eventually do, no disagreement there.

        The disagreement is over whether Palestinians have a right to resist settler colonialism and forced displacement. International law and natural law says they do, it is obvious, but people who live in settler colonial states that were successful in eradicating the indigenous population won’t make that inconvenient admission.

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          19 hours ago

          No but these people are so dense that i have to spell it out like that so they understand the difference I’m drawing between Hamas/combatants/uprising vs. women and children living peacefully in their homes and not harming anyone on this planet but still getting bombs dropped on their heads. But still it’s on deaf ears.

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              17 hours ago

              does revolt mean crossing a border in force during a time of peace and then slaughtering over 1000 people?

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                17 hours ago

                Fluxion makes the distinction between Hamas and women/children. Surely women have contributed to the rebellion efforts. I’m not sure it’s so black and white like that. I wanted to point that out since they seemed misogynistic about it.

                Revolt absolutely means that. But a revolt is only a revolt if there exists an overwhelming oppression that makes people want to resist.

                And that is absolutely the case, starting in 1946 when Jewish people started dominating Palestinians. There have been hundreds of October 7ths since then. 57,000+ Palestinians have perished to date since 2025/10/7 due to Israel’s maximal racism and bloodlust.

                Also, Palestine was not in peace. Hell, the West Bank of Israel wasn’t in peace. The only peace was felt by one side, which undermines the entire idea. Peace means no oppression, no war for both sides. That has never been true for Palestinians while Israel has occupied their land.