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Reddit’s CEO said that when he returned in 2015, he had to remind employees to work hard.
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There’s a tendency in the US tech industry to place idealism above hard work, he said.
Guy who never worked hard in his life tries to tell other people to work hard.
Yes sometimes these guys (CEOs) do longer hours, but it consits of eating dinner with other Cs, looking at presentations (which they cant judge because they generally have no idea how the actual business runs), sitting in meeting, flying to other meetings and pretending to look at some company numbers and of course having the very very high responsibility that they keep talking about that they actually never ever have.
Does this mean they should make x50 or more than the average worker ? You judge that.
Does this mean they should make x50 or more than the average worker ?
x50?
Pigboy gave himself a $193 million bonus. Do you think the average reddit worker made $3.86 million?
I can’t remember who it was, but sometime in the last few years a VC or CEO wrote an article documenting their day and how they “worked 12 hours a day” or something like that. What I remember most is that their accounting of their work included their time at the gym, at least one meal, and something else that few if any employers would consider “working time”.
I agree that sometimes C-suite execs do work long hours sometimes, and I’ll differ from you in that sometimes those long hours are legitimate and valuable for a company. IMO, it’s not the norm nor is it generally worth the premium that most companies pay for those hours.
Fuck spez
Greedy little pig boy
Idealistic people work harder than anyone—for idealistic causes.
They don’t work so hard for companies that betray their idealism.
It’s so absurd for them to think they are going to get people to work harder without idealism.
I got fired for working “hard”. Excuse me karen it’s nature body function.
Working harder isn’t very scalable. Working more productively can be, but almost always requires investment.
A lot of people don’t understand what productivity means and often use it interchangeably with working harder. However from the owner’s perspective, getting salaried workers to work more hours, assuming the extra hours produce marginally more output is net new profit. As they’re seeking ever increasing profit, that’s one lever they have to push to get some growth. The next one on the labour side is decreasing salaries.
I was idealistic at my current place. Then my manager and another key person left, and it all went out the window. Even when they were here, I was still more idealistic than was realistic. But my manager helped channel that.
Now I feel betrayed and sidelined and stifled. Disillusioned. Totally unnecessary too.
I joined a company a decade ago thinking “meh” but discovered a fantastic work env. The mandate changed: make XYZ suck less. That’s it. It was kinda a startup within a stuffy 100-year-old setup. And yeah, we worked like freed slaves. But then, same, the stuffy people wanted to helm the awesome, committed a coup, and installed feckless morons on place of our command team.
Soooo I left, along with about half the staff. It wasnt idealism so much as an environment of respect and support, but it fell apart fast when the good people were tossed.
If I have ajob, I’m not going to jump through my asshole just to enrich some Sand Hill Road greedhead unless there’s something substantial in it for me.
Was that the same idealism that led to the jailbait and creepshot subreddits being allowed to flourish? Or Covid misinfo? Deepfakes? The chimpire? Qanon? All that stuff definitely wasn’t operating clandestinely.
I’ve heard from writeups from former employees that the internal culture is a perfect reflection of Reddit as a whole. Which says a lot.
I shadow banned everyone except bots and now my company sucks but NobOdY WaNts To WOrK ANYmOre
They just outright ban people now. Been a Reddit user with zero problems for well over a decade, like 13 years, I’m now banned completely for upvoting Luigi content and saying I was surprised Kanye hadn’t murder/suicided Kim or Taylor yet which is apparently promoting violence. They’re really going out of their way to purge users.
Funny. I said I didn’t understand why CIA hadn’t killed Trump yet. That is also promoting violence, I guess… If you completely ignore all the people they’ve killed in the past with a worse reason than what Trump has done specifically to the CIA.
The least they could’ve done was banning me for when I said Trump deserves to hang upside down for an extended amount of time in piñata hanging height.
I went to see if this made it to reddit.
0 points for guessing the result.
Ah yes, Steve showing his true colors.
“Forget moral convictions or a greater purpose than self enrichment. Reddit is public now baby, this thing makes money, not societal progress!”
And in the vacuum, Lemmy rises up.
Maybe people should go back to “not working very hard” because Reddit has spiraled into a shit hole ever since it’s users became ad revenue generators.
Fuck Steve Huffman, fuck Reddit, Nazi sympathizing shithole website.
Former mod of /r/jailbait says what?
He was?
Yes.
(But it wasn’t his choice, someone added him.)
(But he didn’t remove himself either.)
Comment of the day
Fuckin’ wannabe Muskrat.
Yep. Exactly. Before Elon went full Nazi and during the API riots, he said that he wants reddit to be like X and run like how musk operates it
Yeah that dude is on the short list too.
Which communities delete comments for mentioning the gentleman in green overalls?
At some point one of these dudes is just gonna hire the wrong security goons.
Nearly all?
Here? LOL no.
At least two in my experience, but I forget which.
lemmy.world in general does from what I’ve heard. Not sure about any others
I think you are correct on this one
Not for mentioning, as you’d see with Reddit.
If it was a specific call for someone to be taken out, then it depends on the server.
But not for mentioning Luigi, no.
It’s always funny seeing these silicon valley startups have essentially zero retained employees and engineers except the CEO.
All money machines built on the backs of long gone engineers that only exist because they’ve cornered their share of the oligopoly market.
THEY FINally decided to get rid of most tech employees in 2023
This is your brain on capitalism
ahh, the ole, “blame everyone except myself” tactic, very classy 🧐
Hey you have to understand that these CEOs work 2000 hours weeks, doing work like golfing, riding yachts, and having extravagant dinners, while you lazy peasants are doing things like raising your kids, buying groceries, and sleeping.
“In the Bay Area, broadly, is this — it’s almost an entitlement of, ‘I work at these companies, but I don’t have to work very hard and I’m here for myself,’” he said.
I always found it amusing how the term “entitlement” has been butchered by Americans. It’s the only language they know and they keep butchering it with low level polemical theatrics.
How is “I’m here for myself” an entitlement? This is not your family. The goal in any job is to maximize returns, i.e. least amount of work for high financial return (like … wait for it … running a business). Sure there are other factors at play too (career growth, not wanting others to have to work more because of you, being genuinely interested in what you are doing and not seeing it as work, not wanting to treat customers like shit), but that’s an individual thing. A business isn’t automatically entitled to any of that.
The entitlement of the business owners and CEO are the real fucking entitlement here. These pricks aren’t entitled to my motivation. If they want me to be motivated to work hard, they have to provide that motivation. If the pay is shit, the work is shit, the colleagues are shit, and the boss is an entitled prick, there’s no fucking way I’m motivated, and no fucking way am I gonna work hard.
While we’re on the topic. If a business owner wants his workers to care about the profits of the company. Maybe they should be guarenteed a part of the profits, possibly even make their share of the profits be determined by how much value they add to the company. Though I see why the business owner doesn’t want socialist stuff like that, since they’d end up owing the company money.
Agreed. Although I am not even going this far.
I don’t understand Huffman’s use of the English language (I learned it when I was 4 and I use it for work and media consumption).
Idealism? What idealism? I’ve worked in several American startups and corps, I have friends who’ve work in multiple US tech corps and smaller startups. I have no clue how he brought idealism into the picture. And how is idealism related to working hard or not working hard? It’s an unrelated concept. If anything, idealism implies you work too hard, instead of going with the flow and putting in effort only when it benefits you. And what’s entitlement got to do with any of this?
It honestly sounds like Huffman bringing up random keywords in a borderline word salad “Entitlement! Entitlement is bad, right (it’s neither good or bad)? Idealism is impractical! We must work hard!”
What idealism?
Probably things like “but the mods do that work for free, we should make things better for them” and “but we have no original content, it’s the users who provide value, we should make things better for them.” You know, stuff like that.
But line no go up. Me sad.
If the pay is shit, the work is shit, the colleagues are shit, and the boss is an entitled prick, there’s no fucking way I’m motivated, and no fucking way am I gonna work hard.
Giving me flashbacks to one of the worst jobs I ever had years and years ago. Within five years of leaving, all but two members of the most toxic team I’d ever worked with had quit, and the CEO had twice relocated the main office to cheaper and smaller buildings (I presume because of a drop in revenue). He treated them like shit, and they all passed it on down to new hires, effectively destroying employee morale from the top down. What a miserable crab bucket of a job.
The harder I work the bigger my CEOs paycheck. Why the fuck should we “work harder”?
Yay Capitalist propaganda!
I always found it amusing how the term “entitlement” has been butchered by Americans.
In this case it’s a deliberate misuse by the GOP to conflate the word with welfare programs that the voters see as free handouts to the lazy. So then they can tout polling data that shows voters against entitlement programs as fodder to gut/end social security and Medicare. I’m constantly having to have this discussion with conservatives when they use the word incorrectly.
and also conservartives are the most entitlted people when it comes to welfare too.
The entitlement in that sentence was the “but I don’t have to work very hard”. The author is saying that they feel entitled to be paid for not putting in any effort.
“Employees tend to forget that the entire purpose of life is to run yourself ragged for some dipshit who has obtained entirely way too much wealth and will never stop demanding more. It’s like they just don’t get it. WORK HARDER! I DEMAND TRIBUTE!”
Classic hypocritical neoliberal mindset: You don’t owe anyone anything, except your company, who owes nothing to you.
