They are still pushing this? We already know it’s not true. At least one person that skipped the vote was actually there according to witnesses (and I think video). The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event. We still have more work to do in 2028 to get rid of the rest of these Israeli shills.
Whoopsie doodles! We did another neoliberal fascism! Sorry bout that!
You know what I do when I’m expected at an important anything? Such as a meeting, or going to the airport. A funeral, maybe.
I LEAVE FUCKING EARLY.Now if I was just going to the pub etc then it doesn’t really matter if I’m a little bit late. So, FUCK YOU, traitors.
How early? 30 minutes? 5 hrs? 2 days?
If I am absent for a meeting at work I get at least asked why, and would suffer consequences if the reasons are not valid.
I am by no means an essential worker or a lawmaker…
How the fuck do politicians dont get fired by these kind of things?
America desperately need to implement recalls
sure the traffic, when the ones missing are all aipac donees. no ones falling for the republican deflection method right now by the dems.
So try again tomorrow, and be on time?
Try again in 2027 when the new congress take effect and the Democrats actually have a majority and not dependent on Republican dissidents, and presumably a Democratic speaker that isn’t interested in blocking the vote.
They still need Republican votes to convict. Unless there’s “traffic” and a bunch of Republican senators happen to not be there that day.
True, still a pretty slim chance, but at least a few less Republicans that would have to support the conviction.
ahhh, the dog ate my homework excuse.
Where was the minority whip ? fucking around as well?
Hot stone massage at aipac hq. All week. israel doesnt want the Iran war questioned or challenged in any way, and the dems are willing to tie us all to the ‘trolley problem’ tracks to keep Israels wars going. “Whatever Israel needs”
Relevant supplement to this
Lawmakers Report That Some Democrats Missed Hegseth Impeachment Vote to Attend Event for ‘AIPAC Front Group’
How nice of them to put themselves on the list of people for serious Americans to vote against next election so early in the cycle. I thought it would take a few months for them to make themselves this known.
Oh what a joyful coincidence.
The traffic:
its thier "remind that have to vote for us party, or we wont give you money " event.
On its face, this seems like a dirty trick by Republicans. Mike Johnson called a recess, then after members left, called a snap vote on whether to proceed with impeachment with no warning. This entire spectacle reeks of a planned Republican scheme to try to influence the outcome through procedure and sow division within the Democratic party. The Republican House caucus was obviously made aware this was happening so they would stick around.
That any House Speaker can call a snap vote like this is a serious problem for our democracy.
So its ok for people to not do their jobs?
But you have to be smart enough to know that’s a possibility. That’s a trick that they’ve used before and has been used before for decades. A good leader, someone good at whipping votes, has to be aware of these tricks and has to be ready for them. A good leader would be able to keep his people ready for this kind of trick. There was only a small window they could have pulled it in.
And I’m sure if some random person on Lemmy could figure it out, the people who’ve actually worked in the job for years or decades would have figured it out too. This is just whitewashing the Democrats culpability in aiding the Republican agenda yet again.
So, the israelis threw a party way the fuck in nowhere right before a critical vote, and there just happened to be a huge traffic jam blocking their only path back to vote?
So, throw a party then crash a truck to continue their war of genocide uninterrupted. It’s what their fictional gawd told them to do. Everything is justified by a fictional being that lives in their religious psychopathy.
Can we just start eating people
These people are rotten through and through. We’d be better off composting them
We are all compost in training, but them first.
Easy to spatchcock when they’ve got no spine
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It wasn’t an impeachment vote. It was a vote to send it to committee which is what the Republicans wanted to delay. The vote was moved up and closed early by Johnson. In all honesty, any impeachment needs to be done in January because it will actually pass the Senate and Dems would control the approval of the nomination.
Why is a vote allowed to go through it representatives are stuck in traffic
Because Johnson. He was aware people were en route and closed the vote.
Its also misleading, its “some of the 11”. Pelosi was in CA for a veterans day event, another was going in for a medical procedure, another had an unrelated (and unspecified) personal emergency, like 4 said they were stuck in traffic (motorcade blocking traffic), and I think it was 2 at the AIPAC event.
Not excusing anything here BTW, just pointing out the title is kinda shitty.
I mean, everyone not being in attendance can’t automatically delay votes, or anyone could unilaterally block a vote by just not showing up. However, I think we all know why the vote was moved up and closed early - it’s specifically because they were stuck in traffic.
They shouldn’t have needed to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years… How is it still allowed to be an excuse.
Alternatively
Having been required to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years is probably a good reason to be at the location
I know how is OK for these people to not do their jobs.
They wouldn’t have called the vote if they were at the location.
West Wing did an episode prominently featuring this kind of bullshit.
Yeah agree, this has happened in my country too - I think they could have been more aware of the risk, especially at the moment.
I’m actually not sure it will pass the senate even after we get 54 DNC Senators in because I’m pretty sure it’s still 60 to remove even though it was 50 + VP to confirm? It’s a little confusing.
It needs a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict in the senate, so yes, it seems very unlikely to go through.
2/3 of all senators present. So if there is traffic and a few Republicans miss the vote, that’s just too bad.
It’s 2/3 of members present, so 67 if all senators show up.
Were any of the House republicans also caught in that traffic jam?
7 Republicans missed the vote but don’t know why.
Why? Probably dead and playing weekend at bernies with the bodies.
insert Mitch McConnell pic here
They were present just not needed. They voted in the next thing 20 mins later.
If Dems somehow was there those 7 would have voted.
These people are miscreants of the worst kind for this. In addition, though, maybe we should update the rules so people don’t have to be in one fucking building all at the same time in order for our government to function. We have the technology, people. We can make it better, faster, and stronger than what it is now.
That just introduces new problems like Mitch McConnell “working from home” and voting on every Republican bill despite having been dead for the prior 18 months.
Actually, I’d like to keep it that way for now. These fuckers use Microsoft for their confidential emails. I don’t want to imagine the huge security issues they’d create in voting for budgets and legislation.
Budgets and Legislation are all televised on CSPAN already. It’s public information. For the super secret war plans, they use the ultra-secure Signal app.
And invite journalists in
How many of their constituents will remember this 23 months from now?
I probably won’t because this particular vote was in fact pointless and inconsequential. New congress doesn’t enter office until Jan 3rd.
How many of the rest of us are going to let them forget?
What about this vote was “key”? It’s like one of many votes none of which will result in anything before the new congress takes office on January 3rd.
Key in that, had they shown up, it would have passed. Some just skipped it completely, some were “stuck in traffic” but all of them were not doing their jobs.
Notably, Jeffries did not vote, yet he wants to be house speaker
And in January, Democrats will point back at this vote and claim there’s “little political will to impeach him” so they’ll focus on “real priorities” like working with Republicans to only give $50 billion in additional funding to ICE instead of the $70 billion that they wanted.
What exactly is it that you think would have passed?
