Now total it up for the event as a whole.
Probably right about 0.2⁰ C
There’s not a thing you can do as an individual that will have near the impact of countering the wealthy gross over usage of resources and industrial pollution. It’s a fools errand so don’t try to guilt people who don’t recycle.
Once it became clear that a large portion of our recycled waste was just being sold and off shored to poorer countries, I stopped giving a fuck about recycling and stopped doing it. What I did start doing was doing everything I could to eliminate plastic from my life, or reuse what I did have until it broke.
The old ad slogan was “Reduce, Reuse, Recycle” in that order because that’s the best order to try for. If you don’t need it, don’t get it. If you do need it, try to use it multiple times. If you can’t use it again, then try to recycle it. But the absolute best thing you can do is not get the thing initially.
Only a small percent ends up recycled and there’s some plastics that it’s cost prohibitive to recycle. Aluminum cans is another one I try not to introduce into my life as well. They have better margins for recycling but it’s easier than plastic to not include into your purchase.
I’ve worked in manufacturing plants for the last almost 20 years. One packaging line will produce more waste in a day than you can hope to counter.
And that’s just the packaging part!
I’ve seen a plant drain an entire towns water tower down to 12 inches. Not feet. Inches. They had to pay to truck in water. And all it was doing was running through a chiller and into the drain. Not even grey water.
Also, hey Europeans, please buy your grandma a little split unit AC to cool her room. It’s not going to destroy life on this planet. But not buying it might kill your grandma.
Edit: and buy yourself one too.
800 million people (so just the population of US, CA, and EU) doing small things can absolutely have a larger impact though. Rich bastards do have a vastly larger impact than individual normal people but using that to say “I don’t have to do anything, the others are more at fault” is not helping anyone.
I agree that works for stuff like ‘don’t litter’. But recycling at scale is literally impossible and they knew this when they pushed plastics on us.
Also there are significantly less rich people
I use paper straws, I can’t get a bag at the supermarket to hold anything but I still have to pay for those bags.
These cunts get to keep wasting the earth. Yes I’m including Taylor Swift, Jeff Bezos, the heads of Microsoft, Adobe, HP and all the rest.
You should look up the fascinating technology of “reusable bags”. I haven’t bought one in years!
I shall relook into those bags I forget every time I go to the shops.
Maybe move on there mate…
Just remember the Tim Minchin song!
Ahahaha you’re a big dickhead I like you.
If you’re ever in Sydney we should get a beer and brutally insult each other.
See, this is the apex of dispute resolution
Reusable bags take up more resources than using single-use plastic bags. You’d need to use the reusable bag for decades to make up for the additional resources to create that bag compared to single-use bags. Things slant even more towards plastic if you can use the bag more than once, like for a bathroom trash bag.
Plastic bags get recycled into garbage bags.
Banning plastic bags means I have to BUY plastic bags for garbage
I’ve started just dumping out my smaller garbages into the bigger one instead of taking the bag out. My grocery bag collection is dwindling (makes me regret the times I decided I had enough and threw out a bunch). I’ll probably end up having to buy liners at some point, but I intend to reuse them when possible. Or fuck it, maybe just use naked trash cans and just clean them from time to time.
I didn’t argue for banning plastic bags. Using plastic bags for groceries is better for the environment than reusable bags.
Poor people shouldn’t segregate trash, shouldn’t collect bottles etc.
Instead cheapest products should be biodegradable, wrapped in something that can’t last shit, transported only by ships and trains. It’s the companies who profit from selling products that should be held responsible for the product eco footprint.
Today, work machine gave me suggestions for how the be eco friendly. (Turning off screen after 5 minutes. Sleep mode after 15 minutes)
All I can think of is how much Microsoft CAN invest in eco mode, but chooses money (or the hope of money in AI) instead.
also (More Microsoft hate)
Every time I’m back to work and forced to windows, I get a new problem. This popes up while reading emails
Microsoft apps have been incredibly terrible at, uh, working, lately. Outlook periodically logs me out on its own for no reason. The mobile apps are especially shitty, at least on Android - they either crash/segfault themselves out right after opening, or they just stay stuck infinitely while futilely trying to log you in.
Did it specify “of unactivity” or did they radically reduce your work hours?
Where did he go in Ontario, Canada? The map has him landing in the middle of one of the least populated areas in N. America.
So here’s the thing: when the next heatwave hits it’s not Infatino’s kids that will sit in a 40 degree classroom and cry for their moms, your kids will. When the next forest fire razes some village it’s not Infatino that will be left homeless, you will. When drought hits they will not cut water to Inantino’s home, they will cut your water.
Infantino doesn’t care about his carbon footprint because whatever happens he will be fine. It’s all of us, poor people, that will suffer the consequences. Not limiting your emissions because “the rich are not doing their part” will only hurt you, not the rich.
So we should hurt the rich? I could get behind that
Yes, go for it. They have huge resources they can spend on security and the state will protects them with everything they have but I’m sure you, ordinary citizen, can “hurt” them. And once they are “hurt” they will voluntarily relinquish their wealth and power and start working with you to stop climate change. I’m sure of it.
we got 8 hour workdays because we bust into their homes and looted them and shot them in the foot
Was it before or after they bought the government, got private armies and bunkers?
The cannister leaked
The data shows that we should be recycling the rich into fertilizer.
Feed the CIWS turret.
Spamraam
Let’s add the flights of the teams. Let’s ask if that is necessary.
If you’re going to start counting shipping costs for the goods then you should compare thet to Amazon
Sustainability for thee, not for me.
Also, some surprised-thunder-rat-moments here: https://ferw.eu/fifas-climate-strategy-exposed-greenwashing-at-the-heart-of-the-worlds-game/
Hank Green actually explained something optimistic after the Blue Origin rocket explosion (here on Youtube), that yes, there are big companies and big billionaires being superfluously wasteful.
But there are a lot of us recycling our bottles and cans, and when we collectively do this, it makes more of a difference than rockets going boom, and jetsetting billionaires.
Granted, we need to drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy for a vast myriad of reasons, but we do collectively make a big difference.
yes and no. be a good person do your bit but don’t forget to hold billionaires accountable (with more fervour than just a “yes but”) because they waste resources and fuck up the environment 1000 times more than an average individual and have no qualms about it. Nay they enjoy it and sometimes they even try to capitalize on it by acting as if they are on the team green (Taylor Swift). parasites are gonna parasite.
yeah I really fucking hate how this particular meme format seems to subtly imply we can just stop making an effort. Always downvote whenever I see it.
Yeah, we could have a world in which we have ultra rich billionaires individually wasting that of a small nation on the regular and no one doing anything to try to offset it. I 100% get the defeatism, but it really does no one any good.
Always downvote whenever I see it.
Glad there’s… 12 of us :|
That’s what posts like this miss— collective action works, be it in collective bargaining, politics, or environmental action. It can be less effective than stronger actors, but it is still very effective. And often is more effective. People also miss that the average output of trash from middle class people is still a bit much.
Another point is that there are many areas where existing recycling and other environmentally friendly approaches can be greatly improved. For instance, the infinitely recyclable aluminum beverage cans are only recycled at around 43% in the US. Despite any wasteful practices by the ultra-wealthy, this is an area where everyone still must be diligent.
You’re right, we can’t afford to either only recycle all our bottles or only drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy.
When you eat the rich, consider using an eco-friendly fuel
There’s only about 3400 billionaires in the world, and wood is a renewable resource, so we could burn the guillotines when we’re done with them and still be carbon neutral!
If he’s just one, there are thousands or so using private executive transport, and these believe they would rather have a presence than trying to use something like Zoom.
So Qatar was way better every stadium is at a 30min drive distance
Yes, he’s a wasteful, elitist asshole, but still keep on recycling. Better yet, stop using plastic bottles (and other disposable plastic stuff) altogether, and get non-plastic, reusable bottles/containers, which you can refill. The best drink containers are thermally insulated, so you can put hot or cold drinks with ice in them, so they stay hot or cool for hours, and have drink spouts on them.
Edit: my personal recommendation would be IronFlask, but there are other quality brands that others here may recommend
Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.
I’ve been doing it since the last one in Qatar (because of the slave-like conditions for workers there) and am doing it for the current one also (because, well, mass-murdering Fascists supporting the XXI century version of the Nazis whilst they activelly mass-murder children because of the “crime” of not being White Jews).
As it so happens, a happy side effect is often that not consuming products of those brands (which are invariably large brands) means you produce less disposable stuff and/or consume more local products. You even end up saving money because you either stop consuming something that you don’t actually need or you replace it with a store brand, and those are cheaper.
Win-win-win.
Just avoid like the plague brands that sponsor World Cups.
IronFlask, the brand I recommended, is not a sponsor of the World Cup.
Hank Green did a video inspired by a similar meme after the Blue Origin rocket explosion. He acknowledged that plastic recycling isn’t great, but encouraged focusing on other materials like aluminium. The explosion released 825 tons of carbon dioxide, which is ~1% of the hourly emissions of the aluminum industry. The current amount of recycled cans in the US saves the equivalent to 15 rocket explosions of carbon every day.
So yeah, get a reusable container, and try using aluminum instead of plastic.
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yeah, and there was a recent expose about how, on top of the fact that most plastic recycling doesn’t actually reduce overall pollution all that much, a huge amount of state and municipal recycling programs had been subsumed by some massive scam that just offloaded recycling waste to some 3rd-party program that eventually buried it all in landfills or dumped it somewhere anyway.
the real answer is to stop producing/consuming so much waste (especially petrochemical-based waste) in the first place and to live in more sustainable and less waste-producing systems.
Oh good allegory would be: stop taking all of those cholesterol and blood pressure medication’s, and just eat healthier and exercise more.
Absolutely. I also want to point out how in some places reducing plastic consumption is so much easier than in others.
Anecdotal: I now live walking distance from a “no plastic” shop that mostly refills your own containers -veggies, dried and liquid stuff… my plastic consumption is most weeks only the milk bottles. I used to live in many other places in which a life like this was hard or outright impossible.
Support local movements to allow you to not use plastic, reuse and refills containers, or get rid of them.
I 100% agree with your plastic statements. However, wanted to make a note that it is standard practice to put type 1 diabetics on a low dose blood pressure medication because it reduces wear on their kidneys, thereby reducing the risk of renal failure and other complications. Cholesterol meds are also prescribed proactively to people with a variety of chronic illnesses, particularly those related to heart health, who are often eating better than anyone here, but have higher risks of complications. Medications are tools amongst a variety of ways to help people live better lives.
All that to say, what choices you make about medications and their place in your health are completely valid for you. That doesn’t mean your choices are applicable across the board. Please don’t give medical advice on the internet. (A conversation about the importance of communities designed to encourage exercise, and easy access to affordable unprocessed/low processed food is a different thing from “don’t take medications: everything can be cured by kale and a walk in the woods”)
Thankfully my country has a deposit system for cans and bottles (except for strong alcoholic drinks for some reason. Beer has deposit, wine, vodka etc do not)
Most cans get recycled. There’s even hobos looking in communal garbage bins for recyclable containers because although there’s not a lot of money in it, it gets them what food banks don’t.
I think most of Europe does this but in the rest of the world I’m not sure how much gets recycled or not
but in the rest of the world I’m not sure how much gets recycled or not
Unfortunately some developing countries have problems with waste segregation and disposal, especially those with cultures where their packaging was then organic (paper bags, banana leaf wrappers, etc. for food) before being replaced by plastic-based packaging, so with little to no convenient places to dispose their trash properly, it ends up almost everywhere. That some balk at segregation, believing they don’t want to be inconvenienced.
This is sometimes done on a state by state basis in the US. Execution varies between states too, some states have it so if you sell stuff in bottles and cans you must also be able to accept returns, whereas other states you have to take them to a special facility which no one does except the hobos you were mentioning.
Reduce first, then recycle, yes!
Reduce, Reuse, and recycle what is left when possible. But avoid, whenever possible, non-reusable containers in the first place, thereby reducing your overall footprint.
Better yet, stop watching fifa sponsored games and make sure you don’t contribute anything to their revenue.
Although seems like that’s impossible to a large number of people.
I don’t watch sports.
I used one for some coffee and a few popsicles and all I got was coffee that tasted awful and had popsicle sticks floating around in it.
I suggest that you try the coffee and the Popsicles separately next time.
Also, not so great for Popsicles. Better for beverages, generally speaking.
Wouldn’t be better if we all stopped recycling and demand the private Jets to be banned with exeptions?
Only because of my infant, I was researching proper, reusable bottles. I came across Pura and also ordered one for me. I absolutely love it. Replaceable/interchangable parts, using nothing but stainless steel and medical grade silicone.
Klean Kanteen’s been another classic stainless option, for decades! https://kleankanteen.com/
We recycled for that fuck to ride a flying chariot around the world.
