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    I assume this is a murican problem. Where I live the delivery apps are about 5-15% more expensive than grabbing it yourself. If you order from a close by restaurant (<8km) the delivery is free most of the time, so you only have to pay the service fee (we don’t do tips).

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    This meme is as American as it gets.

    Cooking your own food is pretty normal in most of the rest of the world, regardless of generation nonsense.

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      I’d say that it’s more of an economical difference than a cultural one. Rich people will always order (they don’t have time to cook) and their kids are not taken care of by them (not cooked for) so they order too.

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    Food delivery apps (Uber eats, Deliveroo, Menulog, etc) are just another silicon valley scam ‘fixing’ a problem that did not exist.

    The restaurants get stung for ~30%, yet are pressured to have a presence on the apps lest they lower thier market prescence, the gig worker delivery drivers get paid poorly and have no benefits, and ultimately the costs get shoveled onto the consumer impacting the highest year on year increases in fast food on record.

    Opt out. Buy from places that have their own delivery service. Actually walk or drive or public transport to the restaurant and eat out - no waste from the delivery containers. Fuck the tech bros, we had fast food and delivery working just fine before their shitty apps arrived.

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      It’s Platform Capitalism.

      You insert yourself as a convenient middle-man then jack up the rents once enough people move on to your platform to trigger network effects.

      Enshittify until basically no one but a few execs and investors are profiting.

      And to any engineers who think they’re on the winning team: look at the gig workers you help exploit. That’s the future of your vocation.

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      Maybe not ‘fixing’ a problem, but they certainly vastly improved on the existing service aspect of food delivery. Which is the aspect I care about.

      Buy from places that have their own delivery service

      Figuring out which local restaurant does and doesn’t currently deliver (which would change on a daily basis) was one of the main problems. Restaurant can still have their own delivery drivers but having a central place to look up who is currently (in-real time) delivering and what is a big improvement. Also I don’t want to call or talk to people, so every restaurant would need it’s own system to take online orders. Doesn’t seem realistic.

      Actually walk or drive or public transport to the restaurant and eat out

      Brilliant. You can also cut down on commute/travel time and cost by just staying home. Or fix your depression by stop being sad! Big brain.

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        Figuring out which local restaurant does and doesn’t currently deliver (which would change on a daily basis) was one of the main problems.

        Your local food delivery places make changes to if they do delivery or not on a day to day basis? Do you live in a warzone? This is nonsense.

        Also I don’t want to call or talk to people, so every restaurant would need it’s own system to take online orders. Doesn’t seem realistic.

        TFW too scared to dial 9-11 because would have to speak to someone. dies

        ‘Big brain’ indeed.

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      Those services sure are nice when your whole household is locked down with COVID.

      Not everyone has access to businesses that also deliver, outside of pizza and Chinese food.

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    Wide sweeping generalizations about entire generations. I don’t know a single millennial that uses those food delivery services. Clearly someone is using them, but i guarantee it’s just about evenly distributed across the population.

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      I’m a millenial. I kind of use those services. Not really.

      2 years ago I moved into my apartment. I would come home, and see a bag of food delivery in the lobby.

      So I would go up to my apartment, think nothing of it.

      Then I’d take out my trash at 6am, and see it still sitting there. One day I checked the tag. Delivered 8pm the day day before.

      It kept happening. Different apartments, delivery anywhere between 3pm and 10pm. I’d come home from work at 1am, and it still would be there.

      Eventually I just started checking the tag, and if it’s been more than 2 hours, fuck it. Free dinner for me!

      I still don’t get why these delivery drivers won’t deliver to the apartment door, always leaving food in the lobby. I also don’t get why the customers who paid for their food don’t come get it.

      Either way, roughly once every 2 weeks, I have free dinner.

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      Seems to be unpopular to admit in this post, but I use food delivery apps. Yes, the fees are ridiculous, but I can afford it. I don’t do it every day, but I do at least once a week.

      I hate cooking and I hate dishes. It’s never pleasant. No, I can’t personally make something at home “better than most takeouts”. If you can, good for you. It’s not for me and I’m lucky that I am able to get takeout.

      Honestly, I don’t know how in the world one human is able to keep up with working 40 hours a week, cook, dishes, laundry, clean, etc. It’s all too much for me. Hell, the state of my laundry has been insane the last several weeks.

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        Pro tip. Go to the laundromat. They have 75gallon machines. You can do a whole months worth of laundry in 1 go for a whole family. 30 minutes wash, 30-60 minutes dry. 1 afternoon, clothes for a month.

        Or do drop off service, which costs 10x more, but you don’t have to do anything. Some even pickup/deliver

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          You need to actually have enough clothes to last a month without washing, though. I’d last 10 days, maybe. Washing machine capacity is definitely not the limiting factor for me.

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            The best place to get clothes is the local uniform supply/restaurant supply/hardware store.

            Work type clothes are designed to be worn every day. Even if you have a small place you can store clothes in a box under the bed or at the bottom of the closet.

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                Have you gone to one of those places?

                Restaurant supply places have very chic options; lots of upscale places use tuxedoes. Security guard blazers and slacks look pretty good.

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        Once you learn how to reduce a lot of that, there is less waste and less cooking and waiting and yes the food is better than food delivered to your door. Even the cheapest frozen pizzas are better than the majority of pizzas delivered to door and pizza companies are the best at delivering fresh food to your door.

        If you don’t want to do dishes then use paper plates. Like, you can both simultaneously generate less trash and have better food.

        I agree that it’s impossible to keep up with chores. I do just a little every day and that helps keep the number down but it’s still impossible. But like if I’m going to get food from a restaurant (which i do) i go pick it up. It will get to me faster, I’ll eat it fresher, it will taste better, and it will be cheaper. Like the only upside to the food delivery apps is that you don’t have to go outside, which honestly is a downside for a lot of people in this day and age. We need people to interact more.

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          Even the cheapest frozen pizzas are better than the majority of pizzas delivered to door and pizza companies are the best at delivering fresh food to your door.

          Man you must have some absolute shit pizza places near you, I’ve had lots of frozen pizza and lots of pizza delivery. Frozen pizza can beat out the bottom tier chain pizza places (e.g. Little Caesars), but that’s about it

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            With covid, pizza places stopped cooking their pizzas fully. We get a soggy mess, with a soft crust, and way too much cheese every time. On top of that you’re still waiting for the delivery on a route of x other pizzas. It’s faster and better to just pick it up yourself. And then you can check it and tell them to cook it properly when they inevitably don’t cook it all the way through.

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        I’d rather use a laundry that picks up and delivers folded clothes than get food delivered.

        You’re allowed to use paper plates and throw them away after one use.

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            [off topic]

            There’s a fascinating history of laundry in America.

            During the Gold Rush, they’d ship laundry from San Francisco to Hawai’i because that was the cheapest option.

            “Chinese Hand Laundry” was ubiquitous for decades in American cities. Back in the day, laundry was ‘women’s work,’ and men would rather work in sewers than lower themselves to do it. The Chinese immigrants were happy with any work, and created their own niche.

            Around 1950 they polled American men and women about the greatest invention of the 20th Century. The men mostly picked the car; the women went for the washing machine.

            Now I’ve cleared out my brain for a while…

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      Exactly this. I know millennials that use third party food delivery services for convenience, but I have not and will not. It is predatory, the drivers do not make a living wage with benefits. It also costs too much and the food arrives lukewarm and soggy.

      I enjoy eating out now and then, but I can get my ass into a car or walk to a restaurant to pick up my order myself. It is better and cheaper to DIY your own delivery.

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      Jumping on the “not knowing any millennials who do uses door dash every day/often” train, but also acknowledging that I cant possibly know every single person in the world.

      Even tho the fact that people often use these services always bemused me, I cant pass the fact that these services are still thriving and there seems no end to their popularity.

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        Yeah like i said, people are using them, but it’s almost guaranteed to be an even spread across the population.

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      For reals. Why does my passion for good food make me feel old instead of just a healthy habit that most people could partake in despite their age

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    Millennial here. I cook most of my own food. Have never and will never use services like door dash, cuz I don’t want to pay extra to give some stranger unmonitored access to my food. I will tip when I eat out, even though I hate it - for fuck’s sake just factor the tip into the price of the food… my whim as a customer shouldn’t determine if someone else’s employee gets a fair wage.

    Anywho, I don’t think that’s horribly uncommon for my generation - most of us can’t afford to eat out more than once or twice a month, if that.

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      some stranger unmonitored access to my food

      Do you personally know every chef at every restaurant you eat at? Argument makes no sense

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      I stopped tipping for take out or if it’s a self serve place. If I’m doing 80% of the work, why should I tip you for pressing 3 buttons on an iPad. Fuck that.

      If it’s a place I’m sitting down and have an active wait staff taking my order and bringing my food and then taking the dishes after, then yea I’m gonna tip.

      I’m done with the bullshit that puts the consumer on the lowest rung. If you can’t afford to pay your staff then I hope you go out of business.

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        I’m not actually sure what the normal etiquette is there. The only time I ever get take out is from a mom-and-pop Thai restaurant that’s one of those hole in the wall places, and I tip the fuck out of them cuz I want to support them.

        If you’re talking like a fast food burger joint, then yeah fuck that.

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    Meh. I like to cook and it’s far better than the uber eats slop that I need to reheat that I just spent $35 plus tip on which would have cost me $14 to just eat at the restaurant but I wanted the free fries and bogo burger when I spent $30.

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    I don’t know what’s up with my fellow millennials in the comments. I do order food once or twice a week.

    About the fees, there’s none if you order directly from the restaurant, and the apps/services that apply them (usually just one) take it out above a certain threshold, or looking into your email spam for of their ‘discount offers’, but the prices of the food are higher anyway (which I find more dishonest than simply charging a delivery fee).

    Also, I only tip if it’s rainy or super-hot (the weather, not the food or the delivery person), because Europe.

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      I don’t know what’s up with my fellow millennials in the comments. I do order food once or twice a week.

      How?? I suppose I did this like a decade ago, but ever since I learned to cook / budget, it seems untenable.

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    Cooking your own food is much more fun and a lot cheaper anyway.

    Yesterday, me and my wife had a whole roast duck in a christmassy port wine sauce with cinnamon, cloves and anise. Served with potatoes and red cabbage. All the ingredients combined cost less than ordering two pizzas.

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    Millennial here, cooking your own food is “cheap af” now? I tell you, fresh produce and meat ain’t cheap where I live! My food tastes better than takeout anyway, f that noise. 😄

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    I remember during covid we decided to try a food delivery website and was watching the person on the map so I could be ready. Then they just drove straight past our street and got on the highway and just kept going. We ended up getting a refund and just driving to a closer restaurant.

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    As a millennial, the only time I have ordered any food to my door was in early 2022 when I had corona and couldn’t leave home for a week. Had to order amazon fresh to restock.

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    I think what’s missing from the discussion is that virtually no-one is getting food delivery every day.