From what I gather TDS is a real condition that kinda explains how trump can get away with everything but they proactively project the title onto their enemies.
They can say that all they want as they starve and go into deeper poverty due to medical issues.
I see a Vet who lost his house, is in the process of losing his healthcare, and just feels like he needs a win on the bad investment he’s doubling down on.
Then he should probably learn pattern recognition. I really have no sympathy for people who get screwed over again and again by the same person and don’t seem to understand why. Especially when they try to act like they like it, lol.
I’m not saying he’s right, or good, just making an observation.
No doubt, I get it.
I wonder how many people’s last words were “It’ll pay off if I just stick with it”?
I don’t know, but if it’s more than 0, it’s too many.
Translates to Truth Derangement Syndrome.
What is odd to me is that these same people would make fun of any other “fan swag”. If this was all Naruto or Star Wars merch, they would be making twitter posts about it.
Big “my whole family left me” energy.
The cult of personality
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I’ve said it before and I stand by it. I would rather have TDS than worship a makeup wearing, convicted felon that raped children and women of age for that matter, bankrupted every business he touched and most likely participated in human trafficking. But, sure, I’m the one with TDS.
I don’t even get why they chose TDS. I like most people assumed it meant Trump supporters being deranged when they first saw it. Not the smartest choice to choose a phrase that requires them to explain they don’t mean them.
I’m really starting to think that naming it TDS was the purest form of projection, in that they (at least the ones not in the “know”) literally don’t recognize in themselves that they are almost objectively more deranged than someone standing their ground against trump and all the people behind/above him in this weird little worldwide pyramid scheme of shit shams and shame.
Basically, every damn thing is projection.
Also, at what point is targeted psychological manipulation (including echo chambering, rabbit holing, generally radicalizing) via news, forums, feeds (every kind of social media) from companies fueled by bad actors finally considered a psy-op?
We all know that some of our previously normal dads and somewhat rational cousins didn’t get sucked into the misdirected hate machine all on their own.
I look forward to learning the codename someday.
Exactly. It never made sense to me. It clearly described them more than his opponents.
Every republican accusation is a confession.
That one thing really encapsulates the crux of their ideology doesn’t it? In their worldview they couldn’t possibly be the deranged one
The actual guy in your comments:
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Calm down there, Okarin.
I am not “Okarin”. My name is Hououin Kyouma, dictator of Nippon, and Member of the Committee of 300.
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I’m also not sure I’d want to. That stuff is naaaasty
I can get MDM-Amine, though I doubt anyone would want to get anywhere near that shit. It’s incredibly toxic.
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Its been happening increasingly though, and I truly fear because while you might sometimes be able to tell, on average, people arent, and the owners are therefore able to control a significant proportion of the population.
I truly believe like 30% of the population focus on making life worse for others, 20 percent want things to generally be better, and 50 percent are just blowing in the breeze with a mildly positive on average take.
If they can get that 50% to think that the common opinion is hateful and shitty, they’ll just adopt that thinking that its the path of least resistance.
I don’t know how we combat that without bot armies of our own, while fighting on their home turfs as they own these platforms.
My Alex Jones listening co-worker claimed I had TDS. He was all big on Trump as the Epstein Files were gonna be released, the economy was going to have all the factories returned to America,food would be cheaper…
I just bit my tongue and said nothing.
Now, with his wife’s medical needs so severe that he’s got almost nothing left at the end of each month, he says to me “How come we can’t get an affordable medical system that covers everyone completely…” to which I said, “Well, we could have that and be like every other civilized nation on Earth, but that’s ‘socialism’ after all and we can’t have that… I mean isn’t that what your right wing radio says?”
He’s gotten awfully silent about lots of that stuff now and I mentioned Epstein files being not released and he lost his shit over it. I told him that there was no more “deep state” it was the State now, and is right there in Washington DC and in your face. He is no longer disagreeing with that assessment.
I think that the reality of the situation is breaking through the Trump Delusion Syndrome a lot of these die-hards had and they are starting to see what really is going on and they’re pissed and silently fuming about it now.
My co-worker took the vinyl “1776” stickers with the tattered flag backgrounds off of his truck and lost all his Trump swag as well.
Sheesh, talk about kicking a man when he’s down, for the purpose of scoring political points.
Only seeing the light when it affects them directly. Classic.
Well, at least they ARE seeing it now.
At this point, you can work on them to bring it all into focus and the FIRST thing I always say is “you gotta get away from the billionaire controlled cable TV and social media sites…” then I point them to the vanilla news sites that have no editorializing, like AP and Reuters.
If they are open to it, I also point them to using Firefox and adding uBO. Given that sites like fb are now running rage-bait scam ads, the ad-blocking is critical.
A lot of the MAGA folks have been overwhelmed by the noise.
That’s definitely good news
Reality is crashing in and with the number of these folks on assistance that Trump has cut, it’s only going to get worse.
My prediction is that if you still see a die-hard Trumper like in the photo, it’s actually someone wealthy that’s cosplaying.
The majority of Trump supporters generally don’t have two pennies to rub together, and given what’s going on in DC right now, they probably don’t have that anymore and they’re pissed…
I’m glad people like your coworker have the mental bandwidth to realize who’s causing their problems, but I’m worried a large number continue to blame the evil libs, migrants, or just aren’t personally affected enough to realize anything changed.
I have a really hard time believing that reality is crashing in on them. The most fucked up and shitty state by pretty much every measure is Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is the only state in the US were Trump won every single county.
Totally personal, but I have to take a moment to thank you because you just improved my life dramatically. I’ve been going through a lot and the last ten years have effectively turned me into the worst version of myself. It is incredibly difficult to justify doing anything in a world this shitty. But you, unprompted, pointing out that I live in the worst place possible gives me a little hope that maybe, just maybe, life isnt supposed to be like this everywhere.
Also, living in Oklahoma, I can tell you with 100% certainty of this: Trump has changed nothing in these peoples minds. They believe that Trump is ordained by God. You cannot argue with this people. There is NO logical train for them to follow. I dont think people realised how serious Trump was when he said he could shoot someone on wall street and he wouldnt lose support. Trump is single handedly the most dangerous person in this country, because half of the country believes he can fundamentally do no wrong. If Trump does it, its not illegal. I would even go so far as to say its dangerous to court these people. They have established that they do not fit in society, they use “God” as justification for breaking legal and societal rules. The precident here is wildly dangerous: but not making an example out of Trump that theocracy will not be tolerated, we are signing the death knoll on democracy.
Democracy is built on discussion and compromise. These people are physically incapable of doing so, because to do so would misalign them with God and condemn their eternal soul to damnation. There is fundamentally nothing you can do to get these people unbrainwashed, beacuse to unbrainwash them is to send them to Hell.
Anyone who has changed their mind on Trump this year is dangerous. It just means they dont think this brand of fascism is working. But the fact that theyve supported him for this long means theyll hop on the next fascist train. Theyre not concerned with the actual problem he represents, theyre only concerned that his brand of fascism is hurting them in the now.
God, i really hope many of them suffer badly.
Homeless and on the streets is the fate they deserve.
I do too. It sounds bad, but it’s the only way they’ll learn anything. I hope they lose everything for treating people this way for the last fucking decade.
We even have fucking Marjorie Taylor Greene getting angry at Trump and blaming the shutdown on the Republicans.
If that doesn’t show anyone how common this type of thing has gotten…
I have one close friend that told me yesterday he was “one of those guys that voted for Trump and regrets it” I was so proud I could cry.
The question is he going to do it again for the next charaltain that offers him mean, easy answers that just hurt everyone?
Only time will tell, but deep down I think his mind is changed. We didn’t have any local elections with everyone else but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t vote blue next time.
People won’t see anything beyond their front door until pain comes knocking. They cannot even think to see things from another person’s view nor have empathy or understanding of anyone but themselves. Fuck all of them.
Don’t talk shit until you’ve walked a mile in someone else’s shoes, then you’ll be a mile away and they’ll have no shoes.
I think that the reality of the situation is breaking through the Trump Delusion Syndrome a lot of these die-hards had and they are starting to see what really is going on and they’re pissed and silently fuming about it now.
The fundamental problem with this logic is that anyone dumb enough to have fallen for this in the first place (and to vote for Trump again in 2024) is more than dumb enough to fall victim to all the nonsense of the next election. There’s no way this momentary glimmer of rationality will survive an election campaign, and the utterly broken epistemology of these people is no closer to being fixed.
If it’s anything like religious “Great Awakenings” that the US seems to go through every now and again (which I think it is), I think you’ll find the movement much smaller than it first was as people on the fringes peel away quietly with each disappointment. They didn’t lose anybody for years because they didn’t really get to be disappointed, but now they have their promised messiah back in power they’re struggling to make sense of it all. The core might double down after each disappointment until the leader dies, but each time they have to add a new layer of complexity to what they believe, and each time they will lose a few people, particularly people that find the least community and identity through the movement. People that won’t lose as much if they leave.
Where at the peak of some “Great Awakenings” the majority of people are part of the movement, by the end it’s sometimes just a small community of a few thousand members. There is never a single event that causes most people to leave, it’s gradual.
Edit: I’d also like to note that they didn’t have much opportunity to be disappointed in his first term (most of the terrible things he did didn’t really disappoint his followers) until the end when people were dying and inflation was rising, but their messiah was out of power before they saw the full effect of it, and so they got to blame somebody else for inflation and Covid deaths and so on (if they even believed Covid existed).
On one hand, I have a coworker who clearly angrily scraped his trump stickers off the tailgate, and on the other, I have a coworker who straight up held a nazi salute with an audible “heil” when he started talking about his favorite band, Rammstein.
Now I don’t know anything about Rammstein and their political views in general, but I’ve known a few Germans in my time and they all held very strong (negative) views on the nazi regime.
Most coworkers have stopped talking about politics and such in general during breaks though.
Rammstein got so sick and tired of being called Nazis just because they make harsh music with German lyrics that they put out “Links 2 3 4” two decades ago to clear up that they lean socialist. And Till Lindemann himself has said repeatedly that they hate Nazis. And yet, people still associate them with it because they can’t think beyond “Scary German music = Nazi”.
I LOVE Rammstein.
Watch their video Deutschland and you’ll get the gist very quickly of what they think of NAZIs and authoritarian, repressive governments in general.
They are absolutely off their tits.
These people think that because they’re white and Trump is white that Trump is talking to them and not about them.
They only see anything when it affects them, and you have to remember at the core of his actual beliefs, past the bullshit he says so he can sound like a semi not piece of shit human, is that he wants to hurt marginalized people.
It backfired on him a little bit too much for his liking, but many more are completely fine paying a big sacrifice to that end.
One down, 70 million to go.
Your story doesn’t seem credible to me because my experience with MAGA is they tend to double down in a crisis.
Some do until they don’t. I was a pretty devout convinced JW into my 30s, with the few doubts I had (I never hated gay people, but still bought the “it’s not a sin to be gay, it’s a sin to act on it” line) being suppressed by my assuming God knew better than me or that since God made the earth he gets to make the rules.
I also enjoyed science but kept brainwashing myself to allow for science and the creation belief (not young earth, maybe dinosaurs were just a preparatory stage, maybe God guided evolution, etc), but eventually a joke on Futurama mocked the moving goalposts of missing link arguments and it kinda broke the floodgates.
This man is experiencing personal issues that affect him directly, which makes it harder to rationalize away. It’s how some people leave stuff like religion: a bad thing happens to them personally and God in no way helps, so the doubts start breaking through the stubbornness.
good on him for actually changing his mind.
ive personally seen motherfuckers get fucked even harder and still being passionately fascist. many many times.
No more bullshit? From trump?
No, more bullshit!
FTFY.
There’s a conservative mod who’s following me around. He stalks my account and comments on my stuff with his sock puppets. Dude. Is. OBSESSED. He’s convinced I’m downvoting him despite being banned from all his comms that get zero traffic. He’s convinced every troll he runs into is me and that I have all these accounts to make him look bad but he manages that all on his own.
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MS, I know you’re out there, I pity you.Oh that guy is a paranoid loser. I think it’s also an alt for (among many others) Universal Monk.
At this point I’m beginning to question @mrmanager@lemmy.today. He’s keeping the lights on almost exclusively for the conservative community. He may not be the bartender who let in a Nazi, it might just be a Nazi bar.
Is that the guy who runs @conservative on Lemmy? If so, he’s anti-Maga. Just saying it would be kind of nice to have the old pre-maga ones back.
Mrmanager is the admin of lemmy.today. An instance who’s soul purpose seems to be to give DonaldJMusk a blog to post on.
Gross. Not the guy I was thinking of
SMCF is awesome, we need more people like him. His comm deserves engagement.
Oh man universal monk is still around?? I haven’t seen that guy in what must be a year!
To be fair most of the mods and admins here are paranoid losers.
These are the same people who unironically freaked out about Obama wearing a tan suit and asking for brown mustard on his meal.
Edit: apparently my autocorrect doesn’t think unironically is a word
Brown mustard is the only mustard, the yellow abomination the US people are pushing is fucked up
But Dijon is yellow. And Zaandamse, too!
It’s crazy the mental gymnastics humans are capable of when it threatens their idea of the world and their place in it.
I’ve repeated this one too many times.
After the pussy grabber tape came out, a Conservative woman went on The View TV show to defend Trump.
One of the other panelists kept repeating the word ‘pussy.’
Finally, the Conservative woman had to ask her to stop using that offensive term.
Pretzel logic repeated for a decade.
People can be led by the nose if you confirm their bigotry and make them think they’re smart.
He literally called his followers idiots and told them he loved the uneducated. So no he didn’t convince them they are smart. He let them know it was okay to be stupid.
The implication was that they’re smarter than “the educated.”
Edit: Here’s the full quote:
We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated. We’re the smartest people, we’re the most loyal people, and you know what I’m happy about? Because I’ve been saying it for a long time. 46% were the Hispanics—46%, No. 1 one with Hispanics. I’m really happy about that.
It’s an old fascist saw that folk wisdom is better than book-learning.
From They Thought They Were Free- the Germans, 1933-45:
Because the mass movement of Nazism was nonintellectual in the beginning, when it was only practice, it had to be anti- intellectual before it could be theoretical. What Mussolini’s official philosopher, Giovanni Gentile, said of Fascism could have been better said of Nazi theory: “We think with our blood.” Expertness in thinking, exemplified by the professor, by the high-school teacher, and even by the grammar- school teacher in the village, had to deny the Nazi views of history, economics, literature, art, philosophy, politics, biology, and education itself.
Thus Nazism, as it proceeded from practice to theory, had to deny expertness in thinking and then (this second process was never completed), in order to fill the vacuum, had to establish expert thinking of its own— that is, to find men of inferior or irresponsible caliber whose views conformed dishonestly or, worse yet, honestly to the Party line. The nonpolitical pastor satisfied Nazi requirements by being nonpolitical. But the nonpolitical schoolmaster was, by the very virtue of being nonpolitical, a dangerous man from the first. He himself would not rebel, nor would he, if he could help it, teach rebellion; but he could not help being dangerous— not if he went on teaching what was true. In order to be a theory and not just a practice, National Socialism required the destruction of academic independence.
In the years of its rise the movement little by little brought the community’s attitude toward the teacher around from respect and envy to resentment, from trust and fear to suspicion. The development seems to have been inherent; it needed no planning and had none. As the Nazi emphasis on nonintellectual virtues (patriotism, loyalty, duty, purity, labor, simplicity, “blood,” “folk- ishness”) seeped through Germany, elevating the self-esteem of the “little man,” the academic profession was pushed from the very center to the very periphery of society.
