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    Even if she’s not going to win, she’s using her campaign to help real people right now. Props for that.

    The criticism that she only recently moved to the district is in bad faith. How many of the city’s mayors had residency loopholes? We should be encouraging and welcoming visionary newcomers like Kat who are seeking to make an impact, especially given the state’s population drain.

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    I think she’s amazing and wish her nothing but luck.

    I know that if she is spending money this way, she’s doing it on the up-and-up with only the right intentions.

    But I can’t get over thinking that political campaigns doing charity work starts to resemble “a chicken in every pot” vote-buying. I would love it if someone who knows campaign finance law better than me could comment on the legality of it.

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      tbf, her campaign used funds to fill a food pantry in her district. in-turn, signs were donated for her campaign.

      this kind of “tit-for-tat” happens a lot in politics but generally aren’t so public about it because

      1. it seems like illicit activity
      2. it usually involves illicit activity

      both of which are untrue in this instance. I’m sure the signs were worth more than the food her campaign donated, but the important part is that if you did donate to her campaign at least you know it helped the district out even if her run ends without a win.

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      Vote buying is legal now. Elon did it the last two elections.

      But also, that’s not what she is doing. She is using campaign funds to have dinners (legal) and then asking attendees to bring items to donate and then giving those items to other needy people. None of that would be illegal even if we were still a country of laws.

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    I wonder if once elected she would be able to get taxpayer dollars directed in such a way, or if this is activity mainly enabled by the freedom and increasingly unregulated campaign system of American politics.

    We don’t need more Glusencamp-Perez or Fetterman types in office, but if this campaign actually translates into real, meaningful policy towards the hungry and homeless (if only in Illinois)? Can’t complain, though that feels unlikely in this environment.

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      Once you’re in place and have access to tax dollars instead of campaign funds, you get them spent on things by putting that community infrastructure into place.

      One problem with that is they’re running for a collective position. In their campaign, they’re captain of their own ship. A congresswoman is more a crewmate. Greater power, but more divided.

      One thing they would be able to do, though, is never stop campaigning. They’ll be less active, as a congresswoman, but the campaign pivots to next election (which, let’s be honest, that’s already the norm, there is no break from politics anymore), and that next election can be focused on on-the-ground community campaigning the entire time.

      So, no, you won’t see the same level of activism with tax dollars, they don’t lead, but she and others that follow her can do good consistently with their position through campaign funds and fight for good in their government while that happens.

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      Curious what your issues with glusencamp-perez are? I don’t live in her district, but seems like she represents her constituents fairly well for how politically split the district is…but again I’m not necessarily in the know.

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        She does in that she votes conservative and against the Democratic Party platform often. There was hope she would help further working class issues in deeper red territory but it has more resulted in supporting deep red social issues as a Democrat. (She helped block abortion and trans rights in the military under Biden, etc.)

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    I saw her political videos on TikTok. She would give explanations about the content that was aired on Fox N*** over the last little bit of time, coverage that you might have missed, and how things are being portrayed to its viewers. Her segments were very well done and very useful.

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      Historically - buying votes with alcohol was a thing. Think 1890’s - 1920’s corruption - Tammany Hall. Probably how Edgar Allen Poe died - voting multiple times in exchange for alcohol.

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      Not only that she’s likely a Republican funded plant. She’s trying to run in my district, but she doesn’t even live here yet, and she’s planning to run for our congressperson. It’s horrifying tbh and I’m going to help campaign against her

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          If she’s using the money and her campaign feeds homeless people to attract attention then I can’t possibly imagine how it would be misappropriating money.

          Should she be paying it as a salary to one of her cousin’s, maybe she should be buying ad spots on network television?

          We’re talking about her and she used the money. What the hell do you want?

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            “hey if you elect me I’ll buy you stuff” is the same as elon’s gifting of money.

            she should be buying ad spots on network television

            It’s literal years before the election. She shouldn’t even be running a campaign yet.

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          Exactly. Imagine donating, expecting it to go towards a hard-working advertising firm, only for it to be frittered away on charity that nobody even notices.

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      no use for supposedly honest people if the system itself is corrupt.

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        Anyone trying to overhaul a corrupt system would know that infiltrating it is a highly effective opposition tactic. You’re not speaking for progress, you’re speaking for contrarianism.

        Edit - besides, she’s using political donations to feed people. Corrupt systems absolutely have uses for honest individuals, because your potential allies in poverty are starving to death and she is feeding them.

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          I always imagined that if I won an office and lobbyists were throwing donations at me, I would spend all of it plus $1 on charities they despised

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          infiltrating capitalism to ‘defeat it from the inside’ is famously ineffective.

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            This isn’t infiltrating the vague concept of capitalism, it’s infiltrating congress. She’s not trying to climb some corporate ladder here.

            What, exactly, has been more effective in the US? Capitalism still isn’t defeated, as far as I can tell.

            What the fuck do you want her to do, stop? Go home?

            If you want heroes, if you want martyrs, if you want real people with real power and real megaphones, you need to work with the tools you have available. Whatever else you’re doing hasn’t worked any better than what she’s doing. Unions are still operating under the umbrella of capitalism - they sign deals with capitalists all the time. Do you think we should stop unionizing?

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              yes. infiltrating capitalist institutions famously doesn’t work. we call those entrists.

              i don’t care for lone wolf martyrs. be them entrists or shooters or bombers alike. those can be cathartic but this is it.

              leftists organizing their own institutions is what historically works, and is a better use of talented people’s time and abilities.

              and yes, it has worked in the US to give workers better wages, and famously the right for workers to have a weekend and the 8hour-maximum workday. entrism on the other hand never did much of anything.

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                and yes, it has worked in the US to give workers better wages, and famously the right for workers to have a weekend and the 8hour-maximum workday. entrism on the other hand never did much of anything.

                … HAH. No… just, no. That’s not what centrism is, and that’s NOT the story of how we got the 8 hour workday.

                We have (or in some cases had) the 8 hour workday, OSHA, social security, legally protected unions, etc as a result of the New Deal.

                What was the New Deal?

                Well, an extremely progressive “centrist” (your words, not mine) - Frankin Delano Roosevelt - ran for President, and won. He took over the Presidency in the depths of the Great Depression, and Democrats attained majority in both chambers of congress.

                They gained complete political power largely because Republican policies had sent the United States into an economic nosedive. They also gained unprecedented political capital for progressive policies by grassroots support in response to the horrifying economic conditions all across the United States.

                Sound familiar?

                He - alongside Congress - passed a whole bunch of legislation, created a whole bunch of federal agencies, and forced through massive leaps forward in labor protections and social welfare programs.

                That’s why you have the 8 hour workday.

                Read a book.

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                  Been on your side up to this point.

                  All those things about the new deal you pointed out are true in the abstract. Within context, all the most progressive wins of the new deal were compromises based on “saving capitalism from itself” under the pressure of activist and labor movements (much more radical and empowered than what we know) and the spectre of revolution.

                  It was activists and popular pressure (largely driven by communist and anarchist organizers) that advocated for these wins.

                  The powers that were didn’t do these things out of the kindness of their hearts. But it’s been too our benifit that fdr was willing to be won over in this way. Consider how he engaged with A Philip Randolph (who would later go on to be lead organizer for the March on Washington for jobs and justice) for further proof on his ability to be swayed.

                  Remember, the Bolshevic revolution happened not long ago at this point and was an ideological threat to capitalism. And the Spanish revolution had just happened and presented an even deeper ideological threat.

                  Tldr: there were popular movements domestically and external pressures abroad that made the concessions of the new deal necessary.

                  And again, generally agreed with you in this thread but your point here risks misrepresentation of the history of people power and agitation and how crucial it’s been to the few good things we know in this country.

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                  the new deal came about because of socialist pressure. thats also why it ain’t happening again, because there are barely any socialists in the us anymore.

                  grassroots support in response to the horrifying economic conditions

                  who was supporting grassroots work reform? thats right, the socialists. under the threat of violence. saying it was simply “grassroots support” whitewashes all the blood spilled to make it happen. it wasnt given by benevolent capitalists.

                  “centrist” (your words, not mine) - Frankin Delano Roosevelt

                  i literally said nothing about roosevelt or centrism in any of my responses to you. putting words in my mouth.

                  you are the one who should read a book, preferrably something not whitewashed by the CIA or something, cause holy shit.

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            Irrelevant.

            You’re implying she’s corrupt because her funding comes from outside her district.

            I am pointing out that her funding comes from her Tiktok audience - who come from outside her district.

            Are you willfully approaching this conversation in bad faith?

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              who come from outside her district.

              She’s from outside her own district. That’s the primary thing that shows her blatantly questionable goals. She lives in a challengeable district with a dem who should be taken out. And she chose to campaign in an entirely different one.

              Yes, she’s very likely corrupt. She’s unemployed, runs a sketchy campaign with astroturfing and refuses to address in any AMAs why she’s moving to our district later and why she’s going straight for the highest seat in a district that isn’t hers.

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                Wow, thanks for making me look more into this.

                So:

                1. She’s campaigning in a district where she will replace an 80 year old retiring progressive
                2. She has an extremely consistent track record of progressive advocacy
                3. Since when does temporary unemployment imply corruption?
                4. Her campaign seems almost entirely social media and local charity work.
                5. She has 200,000 followers which seems to have grown over time with several prominent videos.
                6. Her funding is tiny compared to the average $2.8 million spent by winners of House races.
                7. Not here to reduce a woman to her husband, just pointing out a cool fact and rock-solid evidence that she’s probably legit - she’s MARRIED TO THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE ONION?! The source of the Pultizer-worthy headline, " ’ No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"?
                8. With regard to #7 - there’s no evidence she “lives off her republican parents” - nor would that be an indication of corruption.
                She lives in Chicago, is campaigning in Chicago, and has *specifically answered this question, spoiler to limit the wall of text

                Abughazaleh currently doesn’t live in the 9th District. Though in-district residency isn’t required of congressional representatives, Abughazaleh said she and her partner are “imminently moving to the district” in Chicago’s Far North Side, explaining that they moved to the area last year on “very short notice” and had to take the first viable apartment they could. When the RoundTable asked why she’s running for the seat currently held by incumbent Rep. Jan Schakowsky in particular, Abughazaleh said her campaign “isn’t a referendum on Schakowsky” but does see the district as an especially good fit for her aim of disrupting the Democratic Party’s status quo.

                “I was already gonna move to this district in the first place, and it’s also historically one of the most progressive, on the cutting edge, influential districts in the country,” Abughazaleh said. “I can’t think of a better place for a campaign like this one to be received.”

                Source

                By the way, anyone in the back: did you watch the goal posts move? Did you watch us move right along, without any defense for the first claims? Do you notice how no matter how many times OP is objectively incorrect or uninformed, they just double down?

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                  1. Since when does temporary unemployment imply corruption?

                  It makes me question where she’s funding her lifestyle.

                  1. Her campaign seems almost entirely social media and local charity work.

                  That’s bad. Real world efforts are necessary. Giving campaign funds to charity is sketchy at best when you’re showing it off to pretend you’re morally superior

                  She’s campaigning in a district where she will replace an 80 year old retiring progressive

                  Irrelevant as the 80 year is retiring anyways.

                  She has 200,000 followers which seems to have grown over time with several prominent videos.

                  So? Genuinely hilarious how irrelevant this point is.

                  1. Not here to reduce a woman to her husband, just pointing out a cool fact and rock-solid evidence that she’s probably legit - she’s MARRIED TO THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE ONION?! The source of the Pultizer-worthy headline, " ’ No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"?

                  I had not heard this. However, it will not change my viewpoint that she’s as this post demonstrates running an extremely questionable and too early campaign, as well as being an out of district plant by not even trying to have lived a real period of time in the district she’s planning to run in.

                  She lives in Chicago, is campaigning in Chicago

                  The vast majority of the district is out of Chicago. Also, she’s not campaigning in Chicago. She’s campaigning online.

                  By the way, anyone in the back: did you watch the goal posts move? Did you watch us move right along, without defending the first claims?

                  Any one of the points is enough to make her not worth voting for. Her being out of district alone is ridiculous. If she genuinely cared, she should be running for a district she actually lived in. You are blatantly ignoring how much an issue an out of district congressperson is. Pretending it doesn’t matter just because you like the vibes of the candidate. And it really is just that and nothing more, just vibes. She has zero lower experience in politics, no record, no evidence of capability.

                  Especially when she’s consistently astroturfing reddits, it makes me question where her actual in district relations are. If she even has any.

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        Although I agree with you, we will not get out of the hole we’re in if we don’t support people like this to overtake the ones that are legitimately hungry for power.

        On the flipside, there’s always the possibility she’s doing this as a stunt and doesn’t mean any of it. Plenty of Gen-Z pretend to feed homeless people on TikTok, could just be a glorified version of that.

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          She’s got a beach cleanup going on this weekend. From what I’ve heard, she’s been at every event she’s hosted and she’s actually out there getting dirty. I’m not in her district but it’s not far from me. I might go just to see how it all works.

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          I do genuinely hope I’m wrong, but even at a very basic level here - she’s using funds people donated to her campaign for a purpose other than campaigning,.did she make this clear to people before they donated? If it is just being done for campaign clout then it’s kinda disingenuous by definition. I do hate that I’m this cynical fwiw.

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            Yes, she’s been very upfront about it. She makes it clear at her fundraising events that the proceeds are going to charitable organizations. Her campaign has been soliciting canned goods and menstrual hygiene products, instead of cash, in exchange for yard signs and stickers.

            I get your cynicism, it’s a well-known adage that anyone who seeks power doesn’t deserve it. But for as long as we have elected federal representatives, I’d prefer to elect representatives who actually make tangible efforts to take care of people. Even if you see it as self-serving, to me it’s refreshing to see a candidate appeal to voters’ compassion instead of appealing to their fears and prejudices.

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            It’s all good, I’m in a similar cynical boat. By default I don’t trust anyone that’s in the spotlight by choice.

            However, if shitty people start doing things like this just for clout, well it’s better than the Nazis that are taking things over right now I guess that don’t even try to pretend to be a good person.

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        At least it’s a better platform than “Everything is that other groups fault, let’s hate on them and be angry!” that s eems a bit too common.

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    She’s doing a beach clean up tomorrow. She’s invited everyone out to volunteer and ask her questions. It’s a little far from me and I’m but in her district but, still considering attending just to see what’s up.

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    This candidate’s skills seem to be in communication and I’m glad they are using it for good.

    I hope this inspires a new generation of politician candidates that put action ahead of the politics in their messaging, because I admit that action alone without messaging means no one hears the good work you are doing and gives free reign to culture war misinformation and billionaire funded hate campaigns.

    It has worked. Here in Vancouver, we got a city councillor whose day job is a dishwasher, because of their progressive vision and their concrete action over rhetoric to help people in our communities. He and an anti-automobile candidate beat out the incumbent party’s cop candidate and the NIMBY candidates by a wide margin.