• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    they tried that a few years back via a quadraplegics brain transplant to a normal body. he died on the table. not likely to change that with cloning

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        go look at images of old telephone wiring like when POTS was still the main method.multiply those rats nests of wires by a billion and shrink that them down to the molecular size and you might see the issue

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    Good lord, just let people DIE. Imagine what a rotten place this would be if people with outdated mindsets continued to control the world decades or even centuries after their expiration dates. People were already angry about 80 year old presidential candidates… what happens when they’re 120, or 150?

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    Brain updates? Now with integrated thought-crime prevention using AI-safety training data.

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    If you want a bit of a deeper dive, Sean Carroll’s Mindscape gets into the science of aging and known workable remedies/treatments.

    The good news is that Billionaires will not be living forever any time soon.

    The bad news is that we’ve got a cellularly defined terminal limit and there’s nothing we can do to simply reset the clock. “Cloned Bodies” for animals are dysfunctional bordering on nightmarish. The human brain’s plasticity isn’t something you can renew with a pill or a potion. Blood Boys don’t work. There aren’t trivially replaceable components in the human body.

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      Its wild this research is even being attempted, its borderline unethical to experiment on otherwise healthy people.

      I fully don’t expect immune system driven aging to be understood until the Thymus better understood. DNA reproduction and telomere related aging will not be addressable until cell to cell signaling is finally mapped, and methylation activation/deactivation can be targeted.

      Most likely some kind of cloned brain tissue can help reduce age-related cognitive decline and some diseases. Imo we’d get far more out of targeting specific diseases than going after aging.

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      I’d be fine with billionaires getting it first. As much as I’m not a fan of late stage capitalism, I refuse to cut off my nose to spite my face; they got A/C, feather beds, cars, baths, and all sorts of other luxuries long before us plebs got them. Let them beta test the stuff, and by the time the economies of scale pick up enough for it to be affordable to the rest of us, the kinks will be worked out.

      Of course there’s always the possibility of a cartel withholding it from the masses, but that’s what the second amendment and guillotines were invented for.

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        I doubt it. They will just dump shit further away. If their solution default is to make things “somebody else’s problem” there’s no reason to believe they will stop thinking that way.

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          That might be their outlook on “local” pollution for a while, but you don’t think going from 20 years left to centuries to live might affect their opinions on global climate change?

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            Not really. Many of them are already heavily invested in life extension tech (not that I think it will work, but it means they’re optimistic). I think their general worldview is that technology will fix it, at least for them.

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        They can live forever but have to trade their fortune for it permanently

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    President Joe Biden created ARPA-H in 2022, as an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, to pursue what he called  “bold, urgent innovation”

    I did not see Biden creating a cloning and immortality medical research arm of the government but I guess it’s proof he already knew he was getting old before the debate and no wonder Trump wants back in the white house.

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    As long as it’s made mandatory to cover with insurance so it’s available to everyone. The last thing we need is an immortal ruling class.

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      Let the death of Saburo Arasaka be a lesson to us all: even 150+ year old bastards can get choked the fuck out

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        If they’re functional, and we get serious about space or birth control, then no it’s not a problem. But that is another path we can take to really juice the dystopia.

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          It will take a very long time indeed before we can reach another habitable planet enough to alleviate an exponentially growing population, and forced birth control will be unpopular, not to mention probably employed as eugenics by those in power against those who aren’t.

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            There’s always orbital habitats. They ramp up a lot quicker than even a Mars colony.

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                Eh, it would be worth it with the right recreational activities up there and knowing we weren’t setting up altered carbon.

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      Don’t worry, going by past history this will be available to any and…uhh, [checks notes] oh, uh-oh.

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        Oh at this point it seems like we’re treating dystopian science fiction as a guidebook instead of a warning.

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          Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech

          Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus

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            23 hours ago

            Hold on, what color Soylent are we talking about? Is it the delicious, definitely only plants, green flavor?

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        … and reduce emissions by wasting the rest. But due to negative selection leading into that upper class they won’t be able to manage the planet further despite thinking that they can and will die of hunger eventually.

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    We don’t need immortal billionaires sucking up everyone’s oxygen.

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      Well the “not having extreme longevity” doesn’t seem to function, they are here anyways.

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      If you haven’t, you should watch and/or read Altered Carbon.

      If you choose to watch, it is my opinion that it’s primarily the first season that’s worth watching.