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sudo nix-channel --update
sudo nixos-rebuild switch
Enough of these dumb memes already. Do we really so desperately need to boost our self esteem that fucking much? Yes Linux has it’s cool benefits over Windows. We fucking know.
It’s insanity. I had to upgrade my work laptop to windows 11 this week.
IT didn’t do their research and turns out our main software isn’t compatible with windows 11 at all. So i had to downgrade back to windows 10. When i did, photos don’t work and the microsoft store wont open.
Windows is such a horrible system, i have no idea why they made it so poorly. I could have installed any distro of linux and had it working well in less than 20 minutes. Upgrading to windows 11 took almost 2 hours and it still didn’t work.
Now IT has to scramble to find a solution before the 14th and we lose all security updates, which they are very concerned about. What a nightmare to be in IT.
It’s always a nightmare being in IT lol
Nobody ever calls to say, “Hey! Just wanted to let you know that my email is working great, keep up the good work!”
We only hear from people when shit is broken.
Being in a windows shop only makes it 100x more difficult and expensive.
yay
Well, true, one of the slowest packaging systems in Linux world is still faster than Windows Update.
dnf upgrade
dnf5 made this so much more enjoyable
Is dnf5 on by default in fedora 42? Or is that delayed till 43
Click Update and Shut Down
Windows: Updates and restarts
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Install Windows - does updates as part of the installation process. Get to desktop and check for updates - more updates to install. Reboot and check for updates again - yet more updates.
No it will update and once that is done it will shut down. But the update includes a restart so it will restart and then require you to type your password so it can finish the update, after which it will shut down.
Dont you mean: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
Yea
apt-getis so 2010
Ain’t nobody got time for two commands.
sudo apt upgrade --updatesudo apt update && sudo apt upgradeAre you serious? That’s a thing? I’ve been doing apt update and apt upgrade for years
Yes.
Also don’t forget && exists for sequential completion of any commands
Yeah, I was doing
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgradeI may be totally confused but I’ve also always done it in that order, otherwise I feel like it would run upgrades from your cache of the apt repos (possibly hitting errors as stuff likes to change), then after it would run apt update (updating the repos).
My thought has always been update repos, then check those repos for software upgrades. I could definitely be wrong though.
&&executes the second command, if the command before was successful,||executes the second command if the first one was unsuccessful and;executes the second command regardless of success.I didn’t know any of this, thank you both :)
These are much more useful than the :() :;: operator
Expanded it’s more clear what’s going on.
bomb() { bomb | bomb & } bombFun fact and disclaimer: this is a fork bomb. i tried it to run it on my phone via termux, thinking android would act up and terminate termux; but nope, my phone froze. Thankfully i hard-reset my phone by holding [VOLUME_DOWN]+[POWER] for ~5 seconds.
I’m absolutely serious.
You can also add a package name to install it at the same time as doing the upgrade, though personally I prefer to do that as a separate command so I can see what dependencies are needed.
pacman -SyuI’m on Garuda, so I just type
sudo updateI can still type out pacman -Syu, but nice that I don’t have to.
The beauty of Linux is the triviality of creating an alias that runs whatever long or short update command by typing “upd” or “release_the_epstein_files”. E.g., in
~/.bashrc, place:
alias release_the_epstein_files="sudo pacman -Syu --noconfirm"
– noconfirm
–no-preserve-root
do as I say
sudo zypper ref && sudo zypper dup
Which just sounds ridiculous frankly. Even when you know what it means it still is rediculous.
Fellow OpenSUSE enjoyer right there
The poster would be more convincing if you hadn’t inverted
apt-get updateandapt-get upgrade…It accurately got them backwards, the same way I always do. :)
I mean, it’s definitely faster this way around
Maybe OP knew all along that they wanted to use the previous package list to upgrade and fetch the new one after! Maybe we’re all actually inverting it…
(I’m just being silly, I recognize that an old package list would probably cause issues with installing or upgrading packages.)
😭😭
I mean technically you did “update” the OS. It wasn’t a particularly useful command by going second, but I bet it was fast.
It’s fine! You were trying to show how Windows is better because you can’t make a mistake like that and succeeded!
I’m joking
Thank you, I mostly use pacman but have Debian (rasbian?) on raspberry pi and was fully willing to believe I’d been updating it wrong this whole time
That’s the best part of this post. Windows is fully automatic, while on Linux you need to tell apart two terminal commands with confusing naming.
Fully Automatic Update Against Your Will.
You think ive touched the apt commands in linux…?
I mean, youre right, but thats because i like to be hands on. But i dont have to if i wanted :pNot necessarily. On Arch it’s just “sudo pacman -Syu” and on Fedora it’s just “sudo dnf update”.
I just type “yay”.
I just type “paru”.
I just type help
I just click the “Install Updates” notification when it pops up.
See, it’s super easy on Linux, just different on every distribution.
If you’re too stupid to remember one or two commands there are GUI applications available where you can click “a button” to update your system.
Or make an alias with the update command and name it “update”. This works on every distro.
Ah yes, the way to advocate for Linux is calling users stupid.
If you can’t remember one or two commands then you are in fact stupid. With that said, Linux is for everyone.
There are distros that have auto updates as a feature they ship (Linux Mint comes to mind). There are distros that are basically impossible to break and there are distros where you are responsible for building your own system and keeping it functioning. It all depends on your own needs. Linux gives you the freedom to choose and there are more than one way to do things.
On linux, you can do what you wish. You can use a desktop environment with a GUI software center that pops up a notification that prompts you to install updates. Or update by opening the software center and selecting the ones you want. Or use the terminal commands. Or write an alias so you can type “update” and have it execute all your commands in the right order. Or script it to run silently in the background on an automated schedule.
And you can use your computer during updates, there’s no mandatory update during shutdown/boot.
If I try to update my GPU while I’m running a game sometimes it falls back to integrated graphics and gets slow+warm til I restart. That’s a fuckup I just couldn’t make on windows. Sorry, checkmate fosscommie.
Curious what happens in windows now
fun fact: GPU drivers on Windows run in userspace, because MS got fed up with all the blue screens they caused and kicked them out of the kernel. if the GPU driver crashes, the screen will go dark for a second and then flick back on. if the GPU driver can’t restart then Windows will fall back to software rendering.
Which is what you see happening when updating or reinstalling a gpu driver.
Funny thing is, gpu drivers can still cause a bsod by causing fuckups in the directx driver, which ive seen happen :')
On Mint I set up an automatic update schedule and have been double checking it when I think to. All GUI, no terminal commands. So far it’s been seamless. (Knock on wood)
You dont though. Most linux also have an automatic/GUI option.
Wait I’m confused, did OP invert it or did you?
Op inverted.
apt updateupdates the local package cache of apt so it knows what packages have updates.apt upgradethen installs those updates.
Ain’t nobody got time for apt-get. apt all the way.
Yeah it’s crazy to me that people default to it. For scripts, sure, but apt is so much prettier.
People are creatures of habit and apt didn’t always exist
I use apt in scripts and docker files. I don’t even know what apt-get is supposed to do better there?
It has a stable API but realistically I can’t see them changing apt so much it matters.
I recall somewhere that it makes some kind of difference in scripts
apt-get has a stable API is my understanding.
wdym “a stable api”?
The apt(8) commandline is designed as an end-user tool and it may change behavior between versions. While it tries not to break backward compatibility this is not guaranteed either if a change seems beneficial for interactive use.
oh, ok.
but i wouldn’t care. i’d say “fuck it, we ball”
(confirmable by the number of
--noconfirms used inhistory)That’d just the difference between them, I don’t think it’s something to worry about in your personal machine. Maybe if you’re writing a script that thousands of people will use or something.
A mythical thing. Humans tell stories of impossible things around campfires and by the light of monitors
Be me -
Gets the Ok from IT to switch to a Linux Distro for my work desktop.
Gets the Ok from my direct manager.
Gets the Ok from our contracts manager who used to be in my direct managers position before.
Direct manager reaches out to lead developer, who happens to be a windows fanboy, for the web app we use to ensure “compatibility”, gets told to be careful of what I do and our cybersecurity insurance won’t cover it.
Be me, looking around at all the minuscule pieces of hardware connected to the internet likely running some form of Linux or Unix.
It’s a fucking web app. Make sure it works for a browser. You suck as a web developer if your shit web app needs to work on a specific OS.
And those are fighting words because I build web apps.
I’ve started noticing websites just to refuse to work on Linux:
- Xfinity
- Microsoft
- United Airlines
- American Airlines
It’s not like some weird script error either. It’s straight up a 403 Forbidden on certain routes. Works perfectly fine if I switch to my Windows laptop. It’s like it took one look at my user agent string and decided I was a bot.
Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re running a VPN it could be that as well. More and more sites are demanding CAPTCHA tests and verification holds or just returning 403 for VPN access no matter what OS you are running.
I cooked up my own VPN and I still get blocked sometimes because it’s a data centre IP. For example, Wikipedia blocked the whole /30 range.
No VPN.
Man they get really up in your business if you aren’t using Chrome and their dinky extension, that I swear he pulled from someone’s GitHub and rebranded as his own, which all it does is open file links in the file browser.
I made a point by switching my user agent on Zen Browser to report as Chrome, Ubuntu haven’t heard a peep about it yet.
Side note at one point in time the clock-in we use, which is also a web app, had its admin/manager panel exposed to everyone in the company, I reported it and all I got was a thanks.
takes 1 minute on an 8 year old machine. foss gang cant meme.
