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      Or you can simply use Linux Mint or Zorin OS if you really can’t stand with a new UI

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      If you use Solid works at work you’ll be welcome with More retarded ones like:

      Error occurred.
      An item in your assembly needs to be saved X 1000 consecutive windows saying the same thing even if you hit cancel or don’t show again.

      Solid works is phaking regarde…retarded.

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    I laughed at Microsoft a lot when they basically made Windows 10 beg people to try edge.

    You tried to change your default and it was like, this isn’t recommended! And you’re like, idgaf change the default, and Windows is like, are you sure? Yes! But edge can save battery power. Are you really sure?

    Fuck off edge. Change the default.

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        I work IT support. I’ve seen the dialog about 1000 times.

        It’s crazy how many people prefer a browser that’s not edge.

        They seem to have removed it in Windows 11, and even might have disabled it in later versions of 10. Idk, everything I’m dealing with now in terms of new setups are Windows 11.

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    So, as with many other people. this stuff is certainly pushing me into Linux.

    That said, is there no chance of the EU restarting their probes towards them with all the dark patterns they’ve been using to push people into Edge?

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      My day job is to fight ONE aspect of shady MS stuff. I don’t have time or money at home to fight ALL of MS’s shady shit at home.

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    The problem obviously being that it is not the browser they want you too use, so they create “a problem”.

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      They don’t even need to go that far. Windows has so many problems all the time, they just have to pick one and attribute this response to it.

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        Why stop at just one? Someday soon I’m sure they’ll gleefully tell you that Windows couldn’t format your USB thumb drive, so they reset your browser.

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          “Oops, couldn’t find that file! Better reset your browser. Actually I’ll just go ahead and turn Windows Recall back on, too. Better get your OneDrive trial started also, I know you wanted that…”

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    Microsoft Edge encountered an error: Microsoft Edge is not the default browser. We reset your default browser to Microsoft Edge to resolve the problem

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    Microsoft needs to hire a psychologist or something. Their senseless nagging on forcing shit down our throats doesn’t psychologically work the way they think it does.

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      Except it does work. Its easy to forget that most users dont really know or care that much about their browser or care what their laptop is doing.

      They just click things until something with search bar comes up.

      The tech savy people are not their biggest customer group so they can risk annoying some people as long as they know they are getting more people in to their enviroment than they are loosing their users.

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    There is no end on Microsoft nagging:

    • Trying to install Firefox.
    • Windows: Why would you need another browser? You already have a browser. Use Microsoft Edge.
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      That’s why i completely nuked Edge when i was still on windows 11. Including WebView. I simply did not give a fuck if anything used edge.

      When i installed (fedora) linux for the first time, i was like:

      wait… this really does only what i tell it to! holy shit!

      And i never looked back. (And i distrohopped over time. I am currently using arch, and testing NixOS in a VM via virt-manager. If i find it to be good enough, i’ll copy the config and install on my host, alongside arch. And slowly, i’ll nixify my pc.)

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        I did the same thing until I switched to Geruda Linux a few weeks ago. Neat arch based distro that is optimized for gaming. When I bought a laptop I explicitly chose the DIY Framework laptop so I didn’t have to purchase Windows and have been running Fedora on that for years without issues.

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        Nix made me love my computer. I have everything I want and if anything goes wrong I just rollback. After a taste it’s the only OS that feels right

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          Aww, I found you. My green twat tag buddy! See, it works great. Hope you have an excellent day!

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            oh yeah i made that one comment - what was the original comment i was replying to again? i can’t remember and the post seems to have been deleted. (also do i actually have that tag or are you kidding? i can’t see it)

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              Oh, it's real!

              The post was about mod abuse, I think, and I mentioned my process for tagging annoying users and adding arbitrary downvotes to them in the Voyager app! You wanted the same tag, but I didn’t want it to get confused with the same tag for frustrating users, so I colored it green instead of red!

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    I love how in their minds this is going to be a win. Like there are going to be all these people out there who just quietly accept that they’ll use Microsoft Edge from now on, and also in addition not form any kind of revision to their brand impression of Microsoft going forward.

    I am sure there are some people who just kind of don’t give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it’s a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.

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      I am sure there are some people who just kind of don’t give a fuck about computers who that will be accurate for, but I feel like it’s a much smaller minority than Microsoft seems to think that it is.

      You’re definitely overestimating the size of your own bubble. The vast, vast, vast majority of people won’t even notice, forget caring or actually doing anything about it.

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        https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-2025-q1

        Check “Market Share by OS” and switch it to Windows. Every one of those 67.359% of people who is using Chrome had it downloaded to their computer on purpose instead of just clicking “Internet” and getting Edge. Obviously they feel strongly enough to do that, so I don’t see how they would be amenable to losing all their bookmarks and settings and just going with Edge when one day their OS tries to trick them into it.

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          many of those chrome ‘users’ got there after clicking on one of google’s many somewhat misleading ‘advertisements’ or ‘notices’ or ‘warnings’

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            Citation: It is known

            How many of them? How do you know?

            “Many. It is known.”

            I also like how you put “users” in quotes for some reason. Anyway, good talk.

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              To be fair, the claim that every single user deliberately installed chrome has the same citation lol

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                Maybe so. But Chrome got there some way, their computer didn’t come with it. 100% of the computers in that sample came with Edge configured as the browser and nothing else installed, and 81.95% of them are currently accessing the internet using something else. That to me indicates some kind of decisive action to use something else, on somebody’s part, and also that Microsoft’s years-long endeavor to correct the “problem” by just continuing to ask like a drunk man at the bar in the hopes that the answer will change is not a winner for most people who use computers at this point.

                Probably it’s only as low as 81.95% because they do stuff like this. Obviously those people do still exist in a big contingent. My feeling is though that it’s no longer 1998 and there’s no longer this supermajority of AOL users out there who are confused by the very concept of a browser. Those people are in old folks’ homes now, their kids who grew up programming are the middle-aged people of today who aren’t hip to apps and TikTok, but they do understand about browsers. That’s just my feeling and a narrative I produced out of my ass, sure, but it does seem to match the data.

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                  Sure, but I’d wager there’s a huge portion of chrome users who got there through the same tactic that Microsoft is deploying here - if you to go the world’s most popular search engine on a non-Chrome browser, it tells you that you should be running Chrome and provides a download link

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                Y’all have set up this false dichotomy in which you’ve ignored the real majority of chrome installs on windows: children, grandchildren, and neighbors who just want to move on with their life. So they install “the one that looks like a beach ball” and they install a bunch of risky extensions that’ll make reading and printing the internet easier.

                Source: I used to work in computer repair and technology literacy. But, mostly my own ass.

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          I can assure you that the vast majority of users in my footprint, about 600 of them, use Chrome because we set it as default. Many people have no idea the difference between Chrome and edge. I am currently sitting at a desk where the user has opened Chrome, but it is not default.

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            That’s why I used the specific phrasing “had it downloaded to their computer” instead of claiming that they were the ones to do it. You’ll notice that those users in your footprint also fall into a category of people which this won’t do a damn thing to influence.

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          I think you’re overestimating the degree to which the majority of users are willing to inconvenience themselves over a browser. If Microsoft announced tomorrow that Windows no longer supported any browser other than edge you wouldn’t see a mass migration to Linux. Instead you would see a healthy uptick in complaints about edge.

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            Maybe not mass migration, but that alone would probably add another percentage point or so to Linux’s market share, while others would just set about breaking the limitation/working around it within probably hours.

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          Unless enterprise is part of the equation. All those people are simply stuck using whatever thier company uses. Which is usually Edge and Chrome. With no option to change.

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            Most workplaces I’ve been at let me pick, but one did not let me use Firefox (only Chrome or Safari).

            Weirdly one place didn’t block things but Brave wouldn’t install because the installer was actually a downloader and I couldn’t set it to use the corporate proxy. (Also don’t hate me, I don’t use Brave anymore and am not a fan, this was back in 2019.)

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              Genuine question. Why don’t you use Brave anymore? I’m not a fan of edge or Chrome and am happy with Brave. Always open to ideas through.

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                Sure! Happy to talk about it. I was never a fan of the crypto but you can disable it so that’s not my problem. My problem is that a while back they added affiliate information to links you clicked so that they got money. To me, something a browser should do is go to links you click on as you click on them and not mess with them (apart from privacy/security things). It’s a huge loss of trust.

                Apart from that, I view all Chromium based browsers negatively nowadays because I don’t want to give Google de facto control of web standards. Chromium has a monopoly on browsers, basically. Especially since even Microsoft Edge is Chromium based now. The ad blocking changes were part of this, but just in general. I don’t think one company should just be able to make a change and have everyone passively adopt it because they’re downstream consumers of it. And yes, Brave is Chromium based.

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                  Hi thanks for that. I now that Brave is Chromium based I did not know that it had affiliates so that is something to think about. My lap top is about to go obsolete due to windows 11 so am going to move to Linux in the very near future so I will think I will look around for a new browser at the same time. Again, thank for your reply.

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      I am willing to bet there will be A LOT of people. I am a very tech savvy person, and I use edge on my work computer for many things (single sign on). My default search engine changed to bing, and I ended up using bing by accident for a while. And then for a while longer cause I was too lazy to change the setting.

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      Most users I know can’t distinguish Edge from Chrome any longer. I have to ask them to look for the Copilot symbol to differentiate the two.