I would think that the technology for cryo freezing people would have been newish by 1999, so there probably aren’t too many people from before then who woke up in 3000. There may have been a few people who froze and unfroze around the same time, so he may not be THE oldest, but I think that he’s the oldest person in the series

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    So when you’re frozen you don’t age. So when Fry goes into the freezer doodle at 25, he also exits at age 25.

    For example when Fry, Farnsworth & Bender time travel and loop back around, we wouldn’t give them a negative age. If they spend a year time traveling, we would add a year to their age.

    So I think we need to consider the oldest as someone with the most years doing something. However since time travel is involved it’s time spend doing things that they then remember.

    So Bender, ignoring for a moment he is a robot, being stuck in Roswell would make him quite old since he remembers it all.

    Now let’s talk about Fry specifically. In the season 7 finale, “Meanwhile” Fry plays with the time button, gaining new knowledge every time he pushes the button. Eventually Fry jumps off a building, resetting time once he sees Leela. Fry falls for a long time, but we don’t know how long he falls. Time stops, Fry & Leela live a life, but Farnsworth resets time back to when time first stopped. BUT that means Fry still remembers jumping off the building and ALL the times he pushed the button. As a quick throwaway joke when we resume season 8 we learn 10 years have passed. That means Fry remembers pushing the button to reset time FOR 10 YEARS.

    So while Fry may not be the oldest, he is at least 10 years older in terms of memory, which I think is interesting to think about.

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    I presume we aren’t counting the people who are heads in jars? Even if they have shiny new bodies?

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    When fry went to a self help group for people who were frozen, there was a caveman lamenting seeing his wife in the British museum. Presumably the caveman is older than Fry.

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      Same episode, but Steve Castle (the 80s business guy) said he froze himself in the 1980s until there was a cure for boneitis

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        As a side note, how’d you know that 80’s business guys name was Steve Castle? I feel like he was only ever referred to as “that guy”?

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          Yeah, his name isn’t mentioned in the episode, but he was named in the script

          His name, as mentioned on the audio commentary and listed in the script, is Steve Castle, but he is only ever called “That Guy” in the episode.

          I looked up his name for the comment, i wasn’t sure what his name was and at the time didn’t realize it was as obscure as it is.

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            Ah, ok, thank you for confirming I didn’t just black out a big chunk of that episode or something, cuz I read Steve Castle in your comment and I was like…who the fuck is that? He had a name??

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    If you include his going around the long way in the professor’s time machine and completely looping the time span of the universe in the process, then he’s probably second, but the oldest organic entity. He is his natural age plus 1000 years plus one universal lifetime. The professor is technically younger than him by nine hundred years and some change, and Bender is established to be young enough that Hermes approved his QC check. Those two being the only others to take the time machine trip with him.

    Edit to add: And his Lars incarnation is even older still, having gone back to 1999 and living in “our” timeline, then freezing himself again.

    Bender may have him beat by doing the universe loop plus getting stranded in Roswell and waiting out having his head getting dug up in the 3000’s. Possibly at least one of his time travel duplicates wound up even older still having used the universal time code to go steal ancient artifacts and wait with them in the cellar for thousands of years. But all of them blew up, and it’s not clear if any of those were the “prime” Bender or if the original Bender even survived and the current Bender is actually one of the duplicates…

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      Pretty sure this is the correct answer. Bender was born in the future, but (ignoring the paradoxical time travel duplicates from the first movie) waited out the 1000 year time span two separate times (once in Roswell that Ends Well, and again the first movie). Then lived through two entire universe lifespans in the forward time machine in The Late Philip J Fry.

      Space God might not have even survived the end of the universe twice like he did.

      HOWEVER: If you don’t count the forward time machine stuff, I think it’s probably one of the Nibblonians who are the oldest, since I’m pretty sure they existed before the birth of the universe

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    There were Neanderthals in the episode “Fun on a Bun” but I don’t recall if their bodies were frozen for eons or if they just lived as an isolated society for ages. Nevertheless, boneitis 80’s guy would still be older than Fry.

    I also think that age should also be measured relative to the character’s perspective (or at least the perspective of their body). In essence, cryo freeze for 1000 years = 1000 years of aging, but accelerating 1000 years of time in a matter of 5 minutes from the traveller’s perspective = 5 minutes of age.

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    Was Fry younger or older than Pauly Shore? Plus, that 80’s business guy is probably older (unless you’re only counting people who are still alive in the series).

    He’s probably in the top 5 oldest people, though.

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      Pauly Shore was born in 1968. Fry was born in 1974 according to the Infosphere.

      Fry would likely have had knowledge if Pauly Shore was frozen before him.

      My guess is a toss up between the 80s guy and Pauly Shore.

      Edit- Since 80s guy died from Boneitis, Pauly Shore is the oldest. (Not counting the heads in the jars).

      If you do count the heads, is anyone older than George Washington?

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        Infosphere and Fandom wiki both say Ben Franklin (born 1706) is the oldest known head in a jar

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    There are/were still people being thawed out, so i assume there’s older people in cryo tubes. It’d be hilarious if theyd pull Walt Disney out of one