• recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee
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      1 day ago

      I’d say…

      Facts gets downvotes here!

      Do you know how opinions are different from facts?

      Such a sad excuse for an intellect.

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      21 hours ago

      Fools get downvotes here. When the US launches a violent offensive directly on a neighboring independent country with the intent of destroying its people and conquering its land, which NK and Russia are currently trying to do, maybe you’ll have a point.

      Let’s just summarize the argument made here using actual facts:

      Everyone says Russia is so bad for bombing children’s hospitals and rest homes and apartment buildings, but look at the US’s military budget!"

      It’s pathetic.

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        Fools get downvotes here. When the US launches a violent offensive directly on a neighboring independent country with the intent of destroying its people and conquering its land, which NK and Russia are currently trying to do, maybe you’ll have a point.

        “Neighbor” is doing all of the work here, as the US had pushed its frontiers far away from itself for about a century. Of course the US has actually invaded:

        • Canada
        • Mexico
        • Cuba
        • Guatemala
        • Puerto Rico
        • Haiti
        • Hawaii
        • Grenada

        [More but I don’t feel like compiling the full list]

        And some of those in the last half century or so!

        Of course, if you remove the morally meaningless qualifier of “neighbor”, your point goes entirely out the window. I think this is obvious to everyone, including you, so really the question is why the need to lie to yourself about US imperialism? Why downplay it in bad faith?

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          Ignores the point of my comment

          Hyperfocuses on one tiny detail

          .ml username

          What a shock.

          “Neighbor” was never an important detail, and only someone struggling to string together some type of deflection from the point would focus so deeply on it. The point, as is abundantly clear to anyone with a couple of braincells to rub together, is that these countries are doing that now, as in at this moment, and are targeting civilians, which the person in responding to gladly ignored with their “but no, everyone says Russia is bad” bullshit.

          And you have the gall to accuse me of making a bad faith argument. Once again, pathetic.

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        23 hours ago

        your conditions are too specific. what the US did to Iraq, Vietnam, Korea,… is already bad enough. But these dont qualify because they arent neighbors of the us, and the intentions arent exactly what you listed. still, these are already bad enough.

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          22 hours ago

          I absolutely love the part where you guys are all so vocal about “but the US did this and this” but have literally nothing to say about @mydude@lemmy.world up there acting like Russia and North Korea are perfect little saints while actively trying to wipe out civilians.

          Just Tankie Things™️

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            So you have no defense for your selective defense of US imperialism and lash out at others when it is noted.

            Anarchist instance btw

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              Selectively defends by accusing others of selective defence when they accuse you of selective defence

              Fucking lmao

              Anarchist instance

              DOUBLE LMAO

              Acting like Putin and Kim are chill is about as “anarchist” as Elon Musk thinks he is.

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            20 hours ago

            dont blame me for the opinions of someone else. Just note how hipocritical you sound by dismissing criticism of the us while criticizing russia. Why not both?

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            I don’t know much about Russia or north Korea’s history, but I will not stand for the whitewashing of US crimes. It’s an insult their indigenous people, Vietnam and the middle east to suggest that the US had no implications in imperial projects.

            jUsT tAnKiE tHiNgS go fuck yourself

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              Nice try putting words in my mouth, fuckhead. Things like Vietnam weren’t even being discussed until the tankies in this thread tried to use them as a tool to deflect from ongoing atrocities. But hey, if you’re down with bombing children’s hospitals and apartments, you do you I guess. But maybe you should try learning to fucking read before picking a side and accusing people, dipshit.

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                21 hours ago

                When the US launches a violent offensive directly on a neighboring independent country with the intent of destroying its people and conquering its land, which NK and Russia are currently trying to do, maybe you’ll have a point.

                Then wtf does that mean? Also if you think the US is above bombing children, civilians and hospitals, you must have been living under a rock.

                Aren’t you the one going around calling people tankies? If it makes you feel any better, I don’t like Russia or Putin.

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        Of course the US citizens won’t agree with this, so their government has to do it somewhere else, so the US could wash their hands. Funnily enough, last time someone did this, a CEO was murdered to get accountability.

        This kind of crap is another level of hypocrisy.

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          Russia and Iran are the only reasons Assad remained in power, where he gassed his own citizens with chemical weapons and tortured, murdered, and jailed political opponents or anyone suspected being as much.

          It seems to be a recurring theme with your shit countries. Threatening the world with nukes, instating the world’s worst and most oppressive dictatorships, arming African warlords to exploit gold mines to prop up your shitty nazi landgrab war, building bases on land that doesn’t belong to you and you weren’t invited too, and the list goes on and on.