• Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    23 hours ago

    It’s really crazy how he is being treated as if he was a high ranking military officer or an elected politician. He was just a hateful guy with a podcast.

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      This is the face of extremism- falling over each other to be the most subservient and loyal to the cause. It’s groupthink in a nutshell, they egg each other on and compete to be the most extreme because if you don’t shout hard enough then maybe you’re a traitor.

      This is how you get nazis and holocausts.

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        I was about to post the same thing.

        Its a fucking charade. a desperate downward theatrical spiral to show who can be the most ridiculously “True to the cause” because the person/persons who show the least effort will inevitably become the out group.

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        It is not just about being a traitor or not. This attempt at declaring this guy a martyr is basically trying to prove you are one step more extreme than him on a meta level so you can absorb his influence and supporters to your being.

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      It’s because conservatives legitimately don’t actually know the difference any more. There are several people in my town who have their flags at half mast.

      They think Donald Trump is a great leader, and they probably see him as a great “military officer” too.

      The rules have changed.

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          Yes, sadly. The same people still have it at half mast, and it’s 9/12.

          People around here have also never put their flags at half mast for 9/11, they actually don’t put their flags at half mast for literally anything at their houses. Post offices, schools, government buildings, and some businesses, yeah. Houses, no.

          So this is extremely performative for certain conservatives.

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            Wait people have full on flagpoles in front of their houses? That is not normal human behavior, I must emphasize that.

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              Oh definitely! Plus, tons of people who don’t have a full-on flagpole still hang a flag outside their house at all times.

              The people who live across from me put up a comically-tall flagpole after Trump won last year… the first flag on it was a Trump flag. They now have an American flag up all the time (and it’s currently at half mast).

              They’re all totally bizarre. Rarely have bad Americans announced themselves so clearly, right in front of their houses.

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        It’s like seeing those crying people in North Korea after Kim Jong Il died, it went on for months and was so over the top theatrical. It’s how indoctrination works. The most extreme view becomes the line which if you don’t exceed excludes you from the group and makes you a target.

        The thing is, he’s a nobody. But it only takes one of the cultists tearing their hair and making him out to be a martyr for the next to try to outdo it to show how even more patriotic they are, and it snowballs into this moronic shit where you get hundreds then thousands then tens of thousands then hundreds of thousands then millions of people basically canonize some random asshole.

        They’ve lost all grip on reality.

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      We havent viewed good people as good for society for some time and times have been good enough to only focus on petty shit. So they want to pretend that they have been special and amazing just for complaining constantly and making large amounts of money as that is what we say is useful to society.

      They need to lie to themselves that what they are doing is good to keep themselves as self hyped as they can. Look at how Trump keeps worrying he is rightfully going to hell. They need to tell themselves and apparently the rest of us that what they are doing is good for the world cause they dont want to do anything else.

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    Politics aside, this is extremely sad and pathetic. Something is very wrong here. Far beyond politics.

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        Correct, they will beat this dead horse into oblivion to try and make him their martyr. I am hopeful it isn’t going to work though. There’ll be some fanfare for the next week or two, but it should calm down

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      Agreed. Should dump the remains in a hole, cover it up and forget the spot like a shit in the woods. Pretty sad that the people responsible for running the country (in theory) are wasting time on him.

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    Nothing says “cannon fodder” like this over-the-top response to his death.

    I think when senator McCain, the veteran and hero, died, they insulted him.

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      Oof. MC Cain was a vet and a pow. Hero is a bit far. He got shot down on a mission he wasn’t supposed to be on, in a plane any other pilot wouldn’t have been allowed near after crashing 3 prior to that and his demand was only possible because his daddy got put in charge of Vietnam after he was captured and told the enemy his dad was in charge.

      It’s like one of those rare times where nepotism and ego actually worked out ok.

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          No that’s a political ploy and apparently one you bought and regardless we’re talking about his military career.

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          That’s not heroic that doesnt even imply he’s a decent person just less shitty then the one before.

          You can bend over backwards to call the guy a hero but you’re going to have to chop that definition down until your cashier is a hero because they didn’t steal your change.