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If only other CEOs would put their own lives at stake when ignoring basic safety to save money.
Yes. But this CEO had to drag other people along because he couldn’t afford it without other peoples money.
We knew this
Yeah but government disaster reports are supposed to be slow. It’s every i dotted, every t crossed, and the providence of every screw investigated. Oftentimes the root cause is what everyone knew already, but the report is meant to leave no doubt and to label every step of failure so that people can recognize and resolve intermediate level causes and understand the immediate causes.
Nooo stop being reasonable I’m trying to be smug 😔
Yeah, I remember reading a past article about how the CEO was repeatedly informed about critical issues with this sub, but he didn’t seem to care. At least he was among those who died. If he hadn’t been aboard this sub, would he have changed his tune? All I know about this guy is that he was a scumbag CEO who ignored vital safety issues, so I’m going to guess “hell no.”
Who would think building a sub out of parts you get from like homedepot with a wirelress controller would idono not be safe…
Watch the Netflix doc on this. It’s quite the watch and the writing was on the wall for years!
Carbon Fiber just wasn’t cutting it, but he just kept going and going. He could hear the strands of the fiber breaking and just didn’t care. What kind of psychopath ignore that? Crazy shit.
Carbon Fiber just wasn’t cutting it
Yup. Guy came up in aerospace, and while carbon fiber air frames have to deal with all sorts of freaky, weird stresses, simple compression is not one of them. The difference between sea level and basically outer space is exactly one atmosphere. The difference between sea level and the Titanic is… well… somewhat more.
“How many atmospheres can the ship withstand?”
“Well, it’s a spaceship so I’d say anywhere between zero and one.”
That joke gets me every time.
Saving you a click- it’s 400 atmospheres.
A narcissistic one, with money, and no real understanding of the equipment. They are much more common than you would think in the c suite.
Sadly I’ve seen this up close. Not only do CEO’s, not know, they don’t want to know. They really want the story that says, we are making money, and here’s how.
This is literally why the AI industry even continues to exist despite not living up to expectations. The CEOs just want to replace humans with AI so badly they’re willing to ignore the reality on the ground of it being half-assed.
Makes sense really from a profit standpoint. Replace humans that need sleep. Healthcare and wages with one time costs.
Too bad its not all fun and games when you put AI in charge of critical systems.
In this particular case, the CEO was made aware of the issue. I read another article some time back where someone else who worked there reported the issues to him and was ignored. This guy knew, he just… I don’t know, thought nothing bad could ever happen to him? He was practically an underwater Icarus.
I just heard a video of a test and you could hear the delamination. I really don’t get how everyone single person involved didn’t be like “yo homie, wtf‽” with every single bang! These people are supposed to be experts on this field. I have a maybe possible community college passing level of material engineering, and even I was like “what is wrong with everyone???”
A bad case of affluenza.
Crime weekly just wrapped up the series. It’s also very good… and very long. 5/6 hours.
He just wanted a hug?
He wanted to go out with a bang?
He certainly made a splash, but he just couldn’t handle the pressure.
He definitely went out in a cloud of pink dust, that’s for sure.
Wow, he ignored the flaws? I’m so glad for this new report, the plethora of previous reports didn’t already tell us that at all!
Even funnier: This news article is so well written/edited, that the headline doesn’t even state that he ignored the flaws; It clearly states that he ignored the sub itself. Truly the pinnacle of journalism.
I’m stunned by this news. Who woulda thought?
What a heartwarming tale of billionaire hubris.
I have a dream one day this is something all billionaires will have the chance to experience!
Maybe there is a reason they are looking at space travel vs deep sea travel, space has more protections.
Can’t say for sure the documentary is 100% accurate, but if it’s to be believed, many smart people tried to tell this guy his stupid sub was unsafe many times, but he consistently ignored all of them, because arrogance and vanity.
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My wife is obsessed with this event and 2nd hand I’ve heard most of the facts on this. There were red flags everywhere. You didn’t have to be a sub expert to know that was a ticking time bomb, but unfortunately the crucial data that could’ve saved those lives was continually buried. There’s actually a lot of similarity between the Oceangate scandal and Theranos.
Wasn’t Theronos more of a cut and dry scam?
Oceangate wasn’t a really scam, more like the CEO thought his shit didn’t smell and got himself killed over this.
Without knowing what was in the mind of Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos) it really did seem like the “fake it till you make it” mantra went on way too long. I mostly say the two cases are similar because many smart people within those companies knew things were wrong and tried to speak up but the execs continually shut down any negative talk with zero acknowledgement of the issues.
“Fake it till you make it” is how most scams start. Most people aren’t looking to actually run a ponzi scheme, they just quickly get in iver their head. She knew her product didn’t work and continued to market it anyway. Thats a scam.
Ah, I see what you mean.
Personally, I think they switched to scamming pretty early (medicine is one area where IMO “fake it till you make” doesn’t work), but never figured out a proper exit strategy for the scam.
Thats still a scam. A scam is not in the eye of the shithead doing it, its based on unjust enrichment that deprives the victims of the value promised and whatever value they handed over in exchange
Just because he hoisted himself on his own petard doesnt mean he didnt intend to market this doomed product to other end users who would have suffered the same fate had it made it that far in commercialization
He fired anyone that told him it was unsafe and surrounded himself by yes men/women. This was bound to happen.
Just imagine if someone did that to a country. That would be terrible.
It’s like we shouldn’t elect shitty businessmen with inherited money to public office.
Sucks that he took others lives but it should be required that every CEO be out front on the products or services they sell.
Especially when they sell self-driving cars that crash and spaceships that explode. At least Stockton Rush’s hubris took care of the problem for him.
Let’s stop tip toeing around the correct term…
Criminal negligence
- (1) Every one is criminally negligent who
(a) in doing anything, or (b) in omitting to do anything that it is his duty to do, shows wanton or reckless disregard for the lives or safety of other persons.So let’s get the MAGA administration in on this one. They’re doing this daily with ICE.
I made a deep sea sub out of lumber from Home Depot. Almost done carving the rudder.
It’ll probably work better than his, lol
Lol. I actually did use home depot lumber for a rudder. Just shape the bastard with a sawzall and sander, then lacquer the ever loving shit out of the thing. It’ll be fine for years. I’m sure there’s absolutely no difference between a pleasure sailboat for a half acre pond and a submersible going down to the ocean floor.
We knew that like 10 minutes after it was missing.
Of course but it was still “speculation”, proper investigations and incident reports are necessities.
In November they’re gonna release another report and next time they’ll come to the conclusion that negligence caused the tragedy
And in January a YouTuber will make a video telling the whole story of how they used an video game controller to steer it and how the billionaires son didn’t wanna go and how the billionaire was negligent and people quit over safety concerns.
BREAKING: They were visiting the Titanic.
There’s documentary on Netflix showing how ignorant and self absordbed the dude was.
So self-absorbed that he imploded.
This is the type of enshitification we need more of.
He probably didn’t use enough AI in the design process.
Oddly AI probably would’ve caught the warning signs just fine. LLMs are stupid but people can be just as bad if not worse
That guy would probably have continued regardless, even if some AI would have said: Danger hull collapse imminent!, he would just have disabled the alarm.
