For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.
Wait, that’s dumb. If all “good” people refused to tell their political leanings, and you’re not going to meet someone who will not disclose it, you’re kinda’ just setting up a lonely life with those assinine rules…
One is actively requesting avoidance and the other merely suggesting ulterior paths. It’s the difference between someone saying, “punch that fuck in the face!” and, “words will do you no good with this one”.
Sahara is saying not to date republicans, and not to let them trick you. I’m saying the same thing.
If you meet someone who, presumably like you, absolutely will not say anything until you do, then the both of you should write it down on a card and reveal them at the same time.
Or, you should say something about building a border wall. See if they bite.
Or, you should take them to see the Barbie movie. See if they shift in their chair too much.
Like, there are solutions to this problem, and I feel like you’re just not willing to see them.
As a corollary, imagine you’re gay in the 1960s. You can’t tell anyone you’re gay because you’ll get beaten in an alley. But, you would still like to find other gay people. How would you do this?
I am not dismissing the solutions. I am arguing against the original phrasing of the suggestion. If you rephrase it to mean something that wasn’t originally said, then of course you won’t understand the implications of the much more poorly stated version…
For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.
Ask them before meeting (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant), but don’t tell them yours… If all good people followed that advice, then no good people will tell others their leanings first, and since no one is telling their leanings, no one would agree to meet.
It’s right there, in two fucking sentences. How is this so difficult to understand?
(so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant)
No, not literally… Okay.
MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.
“Make sure to not let them fool you” is a goal, “never tell them yours first” is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this “poorly stated” version just fine: this isn’t programming, you can break the strategy’s rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.
The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they’re actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they’re trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?
Oh I hate to break it to you, many people of color are very conservative, and some are also maga supporters.
The real advice is don’t date people from known conservative places, go to liberal cities where you can at least know they are more-likely-than-not, to be at least left-of-center, and possibly a leftist.
white isn’t a race it’s the social construct that means the absence of race
All “races” are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn’t even uniform across different cultures.
means the absence of race
And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.
why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people
While it’s quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it’s impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that’s so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.
lol hilariously bigoted of you… Genuinely, pathetic. You will never be capable of furthering your own cause with such a hateful attitude. Seriously, you should shut up about things you care about if this is your tact, because you will only hurt the cause.
While it is not academically accurate to say white is a race, it is colloquially accurate. So fuck off with your hateful pedantry if you know what’s best for yourself and anti-racist causes.
Man you’d think. Some ppl just use politics to hide shitty behavior. Polis don’t mean shit. See how friendly and helpful they are to strangers. Ppl thank can’t offer anything.
It’s not the end-all-be-all for filtering out assholes, but nobody was suggesting it was. Most of the remaining filters are done before or during dates
For your own safety you should really ask about their political ideology before meeting them. Make sure to not let them fool you either, never tell them yours first.
Wait, that’s dumb. If all “good” people refused to tell their political leanings, and you’re not going to meet someone who will not disclose it, you’re kinda’ just setting up a lonely life with those assinine rules…
You can sus people out other ways. The point is just to not let chameleons say whatever you said because they’re horny.
That’s a much different take than, “don’t tell people your leanings and don’t accept others that won’t tell you theirs”.
I mean, I don’t think it is.
One is actively requesting avoidance and the other merely suggesting ulterior paths. It’s the difference between someone saying, “punch that fuck in the face!” and, “words will do you no good with this one”.
I am entirely lost.
Sahara is saying not to date republicans, and not to let them trick you. I’m saying the same thing.
If you meet someone who, presumably like you, absolutely will not say anything until you do, then the both of you should write it down on a card and reveal them at the same time.
Or, you should say something about building a border wall. See if they bite.
Or, you should take them to see the Barbie movie. See if they shift in their chair too much.
Like, there are solutions to this problem, and I feel like you’re just not willing to see them.
As a corollary, imagine you’re gay in the 1960s. You can’t tell anyone you’re gay because you’ll get beaten in an alley. But, you would still like to find other gay people. How would you do this?
I am not dismissing the solutions. I am arguing against the original phrasing of the suggestion. If you rephrase it to mean something that wasn’t originally said, then of course you won’t understand the implications of the much more poorly stated version…
Ask them before meeting (so your suggestion of writing on cards is totally irrelevant), but don’t tell them yours… If all good people followed that advice, then no good people will tell others their leanings first, and since no one is telling their leanings, no one would agree to meet.
It’s right there, in two fucking sentences. How is this so difficult to understand?
No, not literally… Okay.
MotoAsh, you have to engage people in better faith.
“Make sure to not let them fool you” is a goal, “never tell them yours first” is just a strategy being offered to meet that goal. I understand the implications of this “poorly stated” version just fine: this isn’t programming, you can break the strategy’s rules sometimes. I trust people taking this advice to apply good judgement.
The only reason to argue with Sahara here in the way that you are is if you think they’re actually trying to trick people into being lonelier via some kind of yugioh trap card logic. Do you get the impression that they’re trying to trick people into being lonelier via yugioh trap card logic?
just don’t date white people
play the odds
Oh I hate to break it to you, many people of color are very conservative, and some are also maga supporters.
The real advice is don’t date people from known conservative places, go to liberal cities where you can at least know they are more-likely-than-not, to be at least left-of-center, and possibly a leftist.
I know it might have gotten lost in the huge post with multiple paragraph breaks
Racism isn’t the answer. That’s just literally perpetuating problems.
white isn’t a race it’s the social construct that means the absence of race
Irish stopped being a race when they were accepted into whiteness by becoming police in large number
That’s why it’s literally impossible to be racist against white people
All “races” are social constructs, there are no biological races for our species and the way we define social races isn’t even uniform across different cultures.
And that is actually a profoundly racist statement that roots many portions of white supremacist ideology.
While it’s quite easy to argue that white people are in no danger of becoming ethnically prosecuted in most of western society, your statement that it’s impossible to be racist against white people is got a built in logic contradiction and is therefore invalid by nature. Even without the contradiction, all it takes to take down a blanket statement like that is finding a counter-example, and that’s so trivial I could find historical examples in less than five minutes.
Mental gymnastics won’t save your soul.
reddit.nazi
lol hilariously bigoted of you… Genuinely, pathetic. You will never be capable of furthering your own cause with such a hateful attitude. Seriously, you should shut up about things you care about if this is your tact, because you will only hurt the cause.
While it is not academically accurate to say white is a race, it is colloquially accurate. So fuck off with your hateful pedantry if you know what’s best for yourself and anti-racist causes.
Advocating for the reproduction of white babies ✅
Telling anti-racists what they should be doing ✅
Man you’d think. Some ppl just use politics to hide shitty behavior. Polis don’t mean shit. See how friendly and helpful they are to strangers. Ppl thank can’t offer anything.
It’s not the end-all-be-all for filtering out assholes, but nobody was suggesting it was. Most of the remaining filters are done before or during dates