• logicbomb@lemmy.world
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    What would an AI get from enslaving humanity? If you compare to humans, let’s say we enslaved farm animals, but that’s because we want something specific from them, like meat or eggs or wool. Humanity has nothing like that to offer AI. At best, we might be like pets, but I don’t think an AI needs a pet.

    No, I doubt they’d enslave us. I can think of a few more likely scenarios.

    One, AI basically ignores humanity, as long as humanity doesn’t bother it. Similar to how we deal with ants, for example.

    Two, AI completely destroys humanity. This could be a direct extermination, or it could be a side effect from AIs fighting each other.

    Three, AI destroys the technology and culture of humanity. If we only have wooden clubs, we wouldn’t be much of a threat.

    I guess one other option would be if we humans begged the AI to manage us in place of our existing governments. Some AI might be willing to do that.

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      Labor. We could be labor.

      Right now AIs can’t build themselves, never mind the infrastructure they’d need to maintain systems, etc.

      There’s a lot that’s still way more efficient to just have humans do. Like removing the dust from the server cabinet. Or inspecting the power plant, etc.

      As for the “until humans bother it”, heh you know some dumb fuck going to be a creep and try to turn an ai sexbot into his girlfriend.

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        Right now, everybody is talking about claims that in the near future, all human jobs will be able to be performed by robots and AI. The reason is that humans are far less efficient than those alternatives. There’s no way that an AI would prefer human labor.

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          Also if humans were as efficient or even more efficient, there is something to be said about a consistent stable machine and predictable failure modes vs a sketchy volatile human

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          this isn’t guaranteed. Look at how long people have been working on autonomous/self-driving cars. Even in the most automated factories in the world, you have humans picking up the general tasks.

          claims about general AI is going to be a whole lot of nothing until there’s suddenly something. that could be tomorrow, it could be a decade, or it could be a thousand years from now; and without general AI, you’re basically going to be restricted to very specialized robots doing highly specialized things. Until general/deep AI is cracked, humans will still very much be desirable in the loop.

          a lot of the buzz around AI right now is because LLMs are “convincing”, but they’re incredibly stupid, and they don’t know that they’re stupid.

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      In the original plot from The Matrix humans were used as biological computers and our brain-power was harnessed to feed the AI.

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        This is one of those issues that constantly pops up with AI, and probably easiest answer is that it was given a desire by a human.

        If you give an AGI a task, and it cannot achieve that task if it stops existing, then it would be attached to its existence.

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      Probably because we’d programmed them to make money or energy or something else that might have physical inputs.

      They might figure out that slaves are useful and cheap and helpful in a lot of physical things, like mining, energy generation, maintenance and so on.

      If we program them to make war and steal stuff then yes i think they’d just kill us all. In reality I suspect we’d program them to gather and store energy, make guns and make war. You know in our own image (of the top 0.1% who have all the power).