Would dems or for him now, though? Like.

I dunno. He’s pretty tainted.

It’s really too bad the state does have, I don’t know, laws against corruption and fraud……

Friendship does be like that.

This isn’t the warthunder forums….

well it became pretty clear that nobody wants him as pres, so… might as well flip sides, right? Greasy bastard has also pulled on asswipes like Bannon to his podcast, too.

Is this one of the “team building” songs they make you sing at MS?

long walk off a short pier. Preferably someplace with sharks.

“You pay me to do what I do, so you don’t have to worry about it.”

My dishwasher is completely fine without the cloud. Period. Full stop.

OP reports loss of functionality. Functions, that are, quite frankly standard features on all not-IoT machines. Functionality which, frankly, you paid for, and which in no way actually require homecontrol to use.

There is no need to put it on the network, but if you want to, and are paranoid, you can connect it to an isolated network. If you dont want to, dont, and the dishwasher will work.

only if you find it acceptable to not have full functionality. “you can put it on an isolated network”… is very much like “let them eat cake.”

Particularly if you consider the trend to force this in all sorts of things- ranging from toasters, refridgerators, ovens, stovetops, coffee makers, etc. Inorder to adequately protect mimizie the risks associated with these devices, you’d have to have a dedicated network for each one.

and yes, the reason they’re forcing you to use the home control app to get these features is to intrude into your privacy.

Notifications aside, none of the functions it enables require internet access, or even network access. There’s exactly zero reason to put it on the network. And as for notifications, I don’t know anyone that’s going to rush home or stop what they’re doing to put dishes away the moment the machine is finished cleaning them. is it possible you’re an exception to that? sure. I guess. but the vast majority of people- in my experience- won’t be finding anything that actually requires internet for to be all that useful.

Which- in case there was any confusion- is why they shut off functions people use all the time. To force people to use their app. Which, if they weren’t some how making money off that app, ask yourself why they’d care?

They’re making money off the app. which suggests they’re selling something they get from the app. (I suppose they could be using your IoT devices to mine crypto when you’re not using it… but that’s got it’s own issues.)

simple. fire the asshole.

This is pathetic.

I’m glad you enjoy your home connect. A dishwasher shouldn’t need an internet connection to function. Period. Full stop.

“Just put it on an isolated network” is ridiculous advice, when there shouldn’t even be a need.

Even if you assume there are no vulnerabilities to find, even if you assume their administrators are never evil, the only reason to require cloud service is to invade my privacy and collect data.

That’s it. They’re selling your data. Maybe you are fine with that. We are not.

Please. I’ve known five year olds with more empathy and reasoning skills.

Vorlons primed all the young races to recognize them as deities. When Kosh saved Sheridan from going splat, they all saw a different deity from the own culture. (Though londo said he didn’t see anything, he might have been lying.)

also genetically manipulated some races to produce telepaths; Vorlons are basically cantankerous assholes.

So…

Jesus was a Vorlon?

yeah, that’s pretty messed up. you should never cross spiders with teddy bears.

would you believe me if I said I meant bowler cap? or maybe a top hat?

(and this is where I find out that Hannah Montana linux uses a top hat for a logo, lol)

I mean, I don’t know about you, but my trained attack bears have custom machined brass knuckles. only the best for my trained bears.

composites tend to not react well to impacts. The reason brass is used, also, is because it’s heavy and adds significantly more force.

I would suggest making a cestus, you can also buy “weighted gloves”… which a lot of cops just love, which are gloves with pockets over the knuckles weighted with lead.

The advantage to the cestus is you could say it was for historical reenactment, and you’re just LARPing or something.

angle might be more in the balls. not sure.

<chuckles> We use dnf here.

<tips hat and runs>