Trans men are (or can be) biologically male. The best term to use for ‘non-trans’ men would be cisgender men. ‘Biological’ is the preferred term that bigots use to spread misinformation and insinuate that trans people aren’t real, natural, or equal.
Someone else said it pretty well:
Biological sex is a construct.
It is based on the observable traits of:
Primary sexual characteristics
Secondary sexual characeristics
Gonadal Sex
Chromosomal Sex
A fully medically transitioned trans person usually matches a majority of these, so it is totally reasonable to say trans women are biologically female, and trans men are biologically male. Generally, the binary categorization of sex is scientifically unsound; it should be understood as a spectrum.
I think the point that you seem to be missing is that your language is not respectful. Adding the word respectfully doesn’t change that. The other poster was offering constructive advice and the rationale. You’re just being wilfully ignorant at this point.
“Biological (insert gender here)” serves as a dogwhistle for a lot of organizations that actively push trans bigotry. It gives a fake impression of a scientific take on sex that really hasn’t been embraced by the scientific community for about 50 years at this point.
They aren’t telling you what to think here, they are alerting you to a tool that organized bigotry is using and giving potential tools to subvert it. Once you see “Biological man/woman” for what it actually is (non-scientfic false categorization) it really can’t be unseen.
Also - Can we stop with the calls that people are trying to control what people think? It’s pretty lame. There’s nothing about this interaction that is trying to force you. All that’s happening is you’ve denied that a certain school of thought is valid. You have stated your reasons why you think it’s invalid and now people who have taken upthat school of thought are defending their position. That’s just normal discourse.
Give you a hint. When people tell you “they are trying to control what people think” that’s actually doing more to control people - because it’s asking someone to take it on someone else’s faith that there’s nothing to be listened to rather than engaging with the arguement yourself.
Trans men are (or can be) biologically male. The best term to use for ‘non-trans’ men would be cisgender men. ‘Biological’ is the preferred term that bigots use to spread misinformation and insinuate that trans people aren’t real, natural, or equal.
Someone else said it pretty well:
Respectfully, I’m not going to get into the linguistic gymnastics here. My meaning is clear.
I think the point that you seem to be missing is that your language is not respectful. Adding the word respectfully doesn’t change that. The other poster was offering constructive advice and the rationale. You’re just being wilfully ignorant at this point.
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“Biological (insert gender here)” serves as a dogwhistle for a lot of organizations that actively push trans bigotry. It gives a fake impression of a scientific take on sex that really hasn’t been embraced by the scientific community for about 50 years at this point.
They aren’t telling you what to think here, they are alerting you to a tool that organized bigotry is using and giving potential tools to subvert it. Once you see “Biological man/woman” for what it actually is (non-scientfic false categorization) it really can’t be unseen.
Also - Can we stop with the calls that people are trying to control what people think? It’s pretty lame. There’s nothing about this interaction that is trying to force you. All that’s happening is you’ve denied that a certain school of thought is valid. You have stated your reasons why you think it’s invalid and now people who have taken upthat school of thought are defending their position. That’s just normal discourse.
Give you a hint. When people tell you “they are trying to control what people think” that’s actually doing more to control people - because it’s asking someone to take it on someone else’s faith that there’s nothing to be listened to rather than engaging with the arguement yourself.
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No worries. I added plenty of context, so everyone knows my meaning and intent.
That’s shitty. Just take the advice.
Thank you for your opinion. I hope you have a nice weekend.
That’s also not a very nice thing to say.
You don’t want to change your stance on your transphobic wording?