I’m anti car. But I’m not in favor of banning cars. I want public transport to be good enough that people want to use it instead of cars.
If I want to get from where I live to the city centre during rush hour, it’s actually faster to take the tram than to drive, and that’s before looking for a parking spot
What is it we imagine “banning cars” actually means?
I’m not disagreeing, but I’m curious. Does anyone think there’s a serious policy proposal to just…ban cars. Like, “starting May 1st, there will be no cars. Authorities will be collecting your car, and it will be crushed and melted down to make bikes. If you live in the middle of nowhere…well I guess you’ll have to eat pinecones or something.”
Obviously, that’s silly to even consider, but I am absolutely in favor of banning cars on at least a couple of specific streets in my city. We could do it today, and no one would be more than mildly inconvenienced, and the new car-free spaces would be thoroughly enjoyed.
Does anyone think there’s a serious policy proposal to just…ban cars. Like, “starting May 1st, there will be no cars. Authorities will be collecting your car, and it will be crushed and melted down to make bikes. If you live in the middle of nowhere…well I guess you’ll have to eat pinecones or something.”
Yeah, I’m all for that. And it’s easy. Just revoke all licences. Then have the cops ticket anyone who drives without a licence. You’ll make a million dollars on the first day of the legislation.
Obviously, put in exceptions for emergency services vehicles. Put a delay in the legislation so there are 5 years for people to adapt. Make the delay 10 years for delivery trucks.
People lived on farms 200 years ago. They walked to town or rode a horse. They can do that again.
Most anti-car people are in favor of improving public transit options.
I’m anti car. But I’m not in favor of banning cars. I want public transport to be good enough that people want to use it instead of cars.
If I want to get from where I live to the city centre during rush hour, it’s actually faster to take the tram than to drive, and that’s before looking for a parking spot
What is it we imagine “banning cars” actually means?
I’m not disagreeing, but I’m curious. Does anyone think there’s a serious policy proposal to just…ban cars. Like, “starting May 1st, there will be no cars. Authorities will be collecting your car, and it will be crushed and melted down to make bikes. If you live in the middle of nowhere…well I guess you’ll have to eat pinecones or something.”
Obviously, that’s silly to even consider, but I am absolutely in favor of banning cars on at least a couple of specific streets in my city. We could do it today, and no one would be more than mildly inconvenienced, and the new car-free spaces would be thoroughly enjoyed.
What if I were to tell you you start with those few streets and then keep expanding the bans?
Well yeah of course, and meanwhile keep building out alternatives and walkable neighborhoods. See how far we can go.
let them eat pinecones
You first
Yeah, I’m all for that. And it’s easy. Just revoke all licences. Then have the cops ticket anyone who drives without a licence. You’ll make a million dollars on the first day of the legislation.
Obviously, put in exceptions for emergency services vehicles. Put a delay in the legislation so there are 5 years for people to adapt. Make the delay 10 years for delivery trucks.
People lived on farms 200 years ago. They walked to town or rode a horse. They can do that again.
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Sounds like you are grumpy. You should take a nap.