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      I mean. If she wants to keep following what Biden was doing then Donald Trump will win. Maybe listen to the protestors once in a while, since they have the power to make or break your presidency. Not saying that what the protestors were doing wasn’t rude, but the point of protesting is to enact change so maybe make your policy clear and make sure it’s the right one.

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          Trending on Musk network, spread by tankies.

          How about this, which none of you propaganda bots failed to mention:

          Before her rally in Detroit, Vice President Kamala Harris spoke briefly with the co-founders of the Uncommitted National Movement, which mobilized tens of thousands of voters in Michigan to withhold their votes from President Biden in the primary earlier this year over his support for Israel’s war in Gaza. Abbas Alawieh and Layla Elabed said they were in the welcoming line for Harris and Governor Walz, and communicated to Harris that they wanted to support her but that voters wanted her to consider an arms embargo to immediately stop the carnage in the besieged enclave.”

          Harris listened to stories of people in Michigan who have had dozens of family members killed in Gaza. The leaders asked to meet with her about the embargo request, and she indicated she was open to it, and introduced the two leaders to her staff.

          Wait, I know why you didn’t add that, because you don’t give a damn about Palestine.

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            3 months ago

            The articles does actually mention that:

            Leaders of the Uncommitted National Movement, which supported voting “uncommitted” on Democratic primary ballots rather than voting for Biden, briefly spoke with Harris at the Detroit rally.

            “Michigan voters want to support you, but we need a policy that will save lives in Gaza right now. I meet with community members every day in Michigan who are losing tens and hundreds of family members in Gaza. Right now, we need an arms embargo,” Layla Elabed, a co-founder of Uncommitted, told Harris, according to the group.

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        Watch out, you’re going to piss off the neoliberals! Influx of bad arguments based on false dichotomies in 3…2…1…

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          But the important thing here is that you now have a way to discourage people from voting for Harris just like you had a way to discourage people from voting for Biden.

          Anything but stop the rapist dictator from marching all the Latino and queer people into camps.

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            Clearly criticism for a candidate has no other purpose than getting people to vote for their opponents.

            /d

            Oh wait, that’s actually true if you live in the United States, where you lot play politics like team sports.

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              Or… R2O spent months posting article after article about why people shouldn’t vote for Biden and is now doing it again with Harris. And not even really hiding it.

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                And I was 100% correct. I said they will replace him for months prior. Look what happened. Biden is out.

                Still vote for Kamala/Walz but I’m saying if she keeps up this “clap back” shit against voters with valid concerns… she’ll lose battleground states. She needs every vote she can earn. She can’t afford to lose voters.

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                    At the very least she needs to publicly commits to ending arms shipments to Israel if elected. Barring that there is no reason to expect her policy to be any different from Biden’s.

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            Anything but stop the racist dictator from completely destroying gaza and slaughtering all the Muslim children, more like.

            Why are we so quick to assume Harris will not listen to pro-palestinian protestors? She’s made some good decisions recently, maybe she’ll keep the good times rolling.

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              She did listen to them. She literally was talking to them before they interrupted her rally. She has been consistently critical of Netanyahu, far more than Joe Biden.

              And suggesting we should not vote for Harris and allow a domestic genocide as if Trump would do anything to stop the Israeli genocide is just nonsense.

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                She did listen to them. She literally was talking to them before they interrupted her rally.

                And that’s exactly what the article says.

                And suggesting we should not vote for Harris and allow a domestic genocide as if Trump would do anything to stop the Israeli genocide is just nonsense.

                Haven’t actually seen anyone make that argument as of yet. So far all I’ve seen is reminders that the Biden gaza policy was what started the push to replace him, and Harris has yet to make a definitive stance on the issue yet.

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                  Well then maybe go up this comment chain, since you replied to me replying to an image posted by R2O which says everything needs to fall apart.

                  Do you think everything will fall apart if Harris is elected? Because I sure don’t.

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                    Do you think everything will fall apart if Harris is elected? Because I sure don’t.

                    In Gaza? Yea, I think it could continue getting worse if Harris does nothing. She hasn’t taken a stance on the issue yet, I don’t know what her plan is. But things are still escalating, aren’t they?

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          Yep, and there’s not much we can do individually. My hope is that people will recognize this before it gets too bad. Most people are good, if given the chance.