• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    Yeah, she is technically fine in the sense that she isn’t totally insane like the orange but she is not the “best foot forward”.

    And it sends a very apathetic message from the rich politician “ruling class”.

    So imo it’s detrimental to saving democracy.

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        I don’t know too much about him and idk if he wants it, but I’ve heard people mention Gavin Newsom.

        My personal pick would be AOC, I actually like her politics but I’m sure she would get loads of opposition.

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          Pritzker would also be a solid pick. He would use Trump as toilet paper in a debate and just flat out call him a lying bitch to his face.

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          AOC and the progressive wing hitched their cart to Biden and expressed zero interest in the presidency so that’s out. They were the single group keeping him in the race when it comes to party support.

          Newsom has clearly tested the waters (both 2020 and 2024) and both times backed off for whatever reason, so he’s not interested in putting himself forward this time it seems.

          All of this is to say this illustrates my larger point. We can’t say “they are keeping someone from running“ when no one is willing to come forward. Early in the primary sure that was a valid claim, but now? When the voice for him to step down is so loud? If somebody wants it, now is the time. So if they’re not stepping forward, that’s not the establishment. That’s their choice.

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            expressed zero interest in the presidency so that’s out.

            I’m pretty sure they don’t want to divide the vote by getting leftist thinking about others than the DNC candidate. That formula changes when said candidate steps down.

            when no one is willing to come forward.

            You have a point here, it’s like the opposite of 2020, no one wants to step into this mess this late.

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              Sure I definitely think that is their strategy, plus there have been a lot of reputable reports saying that they likely extracted a lot of support/concessions from the party by sticking behind Biden over the last few months. My point isn’t what the reasoning is necessarily, but more that they are all electing not to run for various reasons.

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                Imo it’s not a “fair” shot for whoever takes the spot. You have less time and overall it won’t look good as compared to have been there from the get go.

                That’s what’s so frustrating about this, Joe staying in the race might be the best way forward… because he has doubled down all this time.

                I’m not American so all I can do is give moral support.

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                  I agreed with you until a few weeks ago. The momentum is clearly in Harris‘s direction now. Appreciate the moral support - we seriously need it