• tatterdemalion@programming.dev
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    So just browse piracy sites with Tor. Bittorrent clients might struggle to access blocked trackers, but the DHT can’t really be censored IIUC.

    EDIT: It might even be possible to configure Bittorrent clients to use Tor specifically for communication with trackers (but not for the bulk P2P chunk transfers).

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    host your own recursive DNS like technitium or unbound then you remain in control they can’t deny root DNS

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      DNS only handles the initial domain-to-IP translation.

      What the article is (mostly) talking about is the second step - blocking access to the destination IP/site entirely.

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    political theater. won’t happen because it’s unenforceable.

    • VPNs operate outside of federal control
    • ISPs leverage DNS blocking to censor which is laughable
    • DNS exists outside of the US

    if this does happen, IF, it has nothing to do with IP rights or protecting Americans. it has everything to do with censoring what the majority of common Americans read online. this is the first step towards blocking news outlets that won’t regurgitate whitehouse directives.

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      I’m a bit surprised they’ve gone with piracy as an excuse - usually it’s “Think of the children!” Maybe they’ve finally figured out that we already know that republicans are thinking of (molesting) the children so they’ve fallen back on “You wouldn’t download a car”.

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      • ISPs leverage DNS blocking to censor

      And blocking the IP address of the site in question, as well. That’s why so many “illegal” sites jump around IP addresses like a flea on a hot griddle. They’re trying to remain accessible whenever the ISP prevents direct access.

      Because if you block the IP address, blocking DNS is superfluous and performative – it’s just window dressing for better optics towards politicians who don’t understand tech. DNS censorship trivially bypassible by using custom DNS servers that aren’t affected by the censorship, while IP blocking hits everyone who is under that ISP regardless of their DNS settings - they need a VPN to bypass IP blocking.

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        all that’s going to do is give them an excuse to block IPs outside the US by the block.

        keep an eye on the FCC and any legislation they take against HAM or SDR. without that it would be difficult to have any comms outside the US.

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          No, IP blocking is widespread in most places, it’s just that “rights holder” lawsuits go after the domain name, first, both in terms of the registrar and DNS. They also force ISPs to block IP addresses, but this is more of a whack-a-mole prospect so it’s usually a second-order method.

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    But surely the whole point of using the VPN is to use one that’s outside of U.S authority?

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    This goes far deeper than just “piracy”. Everyone’s favourite section 1201 of the DMCA also means that this bill will result in the US blocking foreign sites which explain to you how to fix your shit if you have to bypass even the most inane digital lock.

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    We’re just not allowed to use computers in any way that actually benefits us, anymore? Digital prison man.

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      In any country. Which is already nudging me in the direction of buying some land and weapons, set up some kind of a farm and let humanity fuck itself however it wants. Big problem though: land and weapons cost way more than I can afford

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    This leads to the government deciding which websites you can visit and cant visit down the line. This is a dystopian level of control and with surveillance already getting dystopian… Pick your dystopian technology book and decide which one we’re leading towards. Fascism policies are already on the rise in democratic worlds.

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    Yeah, good luck with enforcing that to foreign VPN providers, you dumb fucks.

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      Next step is blocking access to foreign VPN providers. They are dumb fucks, but they are persistent dumb fucks.

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          Only nutjobs like us gonna go double vpn+ tor. Not a single normie would ever go though this.

          Look at China. One can penetrate the great firewall but need to jump through so many hoops just to get a shitty internet connection to the rest of the world. Normies there just won’t do it.

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          I think so too - we and many others won’t have an issue getting whatever we need. But the broad masses might not, and this legislation also aims at things like repair instructions and tools to fix your shit thanks to Section 1201 of the DMCA.

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            Yes, exactly the point: first take access to information from most people. Then slowly close the trap more and more tight

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        I got a disconnect for alleged piracy, all it did was give me completely free internet when I bypassed it.

        And the government folks, especially in the current admin full of DOGE boys and crypto bros, are even dumber than the corpos who can;t get anything right.

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        Sure, obviously. These idiots can’t even tie their own shoes without assistants. But sure.

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    Like this will ever work. lol. Just don’t get VPN from a company that is headquartered in the US. Problem solved. There are a million other ways to bypass this. There will ALWAYS be away, they’re just trying to make it harder for the experienced, and impossible for your average Joe.

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      They could also force ISPs to ban VPN IPs that don’t comply with their piracy blocking rules, regardless of whether they’re in the US.

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      The only way to stop it is buy severing all the cables and blowing up the infrastructure. They aren’t prepared to do that.

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        Literally. This is not a new “fight”. These corrupt, bribes-ridden fuckers have been “fighting” piracy since the inception of the internet, and they’ve always lost, and always lose.