A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.

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    17 hours ago

    She was 100% in the right and this is not morally ambiguous

    We need to find out how to raise boys that cant even conceive of this kind of conduct

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      17 hours ago

      We need to find out how to raise boys that cant even conceive of this kind of conduct

      While I agree with the sentiment on the surface, naïveté doesn’t solve the root issue. We need to raise boys who violently reject people who inevitably conceive of this kind of conduct. Sociopaths and misogynists will always exist. That’s why it’s important for a healthy society to root them out as soon as they show their true colors.

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      17 hours ago

      Exactly, this shit is on his parents just as much as on him. More even. His parents didn’t teach him to respect women and girls and in general to respect other people’s boundaries.

      I also think self defense for girls and young women should be a mandatory class taught at every school. This boy is already degrading girls sexually against their will. Girls should know how to protect themselves from creeps like him.

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        14 hours ago

        I’m not here to defend what is completely unacceptable. So don’t mistake it as such. I also think it’s on the parents to raise their child. Kids do dumb things, that’s part of being a kid. But there’s dumb things. And then there’s this…

        I think this also illustrates the importance of competent sex ed in schools.

        With today’s generative AI tools. I fear these kind of things are far too easy and require far too little effort. Which makes proper sex ed all more important.

        Regardless of whatever happens with this school suspension. That boy is probably in some very serious legal trouble. Because no matter how you look at it, at the end of the day. He intentionally, created, and distributed CP.

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      14 hours ago

      We need to find out how to raise boys that cant even conceive of this kind of conduct

      Brain dead take. This is not a matter of parenting, it’s a matter of policy. You can’t stop this kind of behavior by scolding boys, and that’s not exactly the right way to get about it in the first place. Hormonal teenagers will forever be horny and creative. If they’re not finding every loophole to have sex, then they’re going to find the wackiest methods to get the next best thing. For some teen who can barely think straight, this is a quick way to get satisfaction from a crush without having the bravery of actually interacting with them.

      That convenience is the problem. It is SO easy for anyone to get their hands on deepfake technology, and they’re so easy to use. You just find one of the hundreds of websites online, post a picture, and boom you’re done. Not only is it that easy, but their parents don’t even know such a technology exists because they come from a different era. In fact, they many won’t know of it until it’s too late.

      Besides, no amount of talks stopped or parental controls stopped teens from watching porn, why would this be any different? The answer is that it’s not. The only serious way to address this issue, and it is a big issue, is through legislation. There’s need to be a federal ban that completely outlaws these deepfake websites, and this ban has to be actually enforced. At the very least there needs to be state bans, there just has to be some sort of legislation in place to ban or regulate this tech. Currently there is nothing.

      Will this be fool proof? Of course not, when there’s a will, there’s a way. However, it will become way more difficult for your average person to do so. A 13 year can find a website and upload a picture, but it’ll harder for them to go on the dark web and do the same thing or install an AI model like Stable Diffusion locally and set it up to do deepfakes. These extra steps remove the convenience out of the equation, and make things like normal porn or interacting with their peers the better option.

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        13 hours ago

        You can’t stop this kind of behavior by scolding boys, and that’s not exactly the right way to get about it in the first place.

        Yes you fucking can, if by scolding you mean talking to them.

        Have conversations with them on how to be respectful of their peers. All their peers. Talk about things that are problems in the grades above them and tell them how it emotionally impacts people. Ask them how they feel about stuff they see it school, what they see. Frame tolerance for awful things as a moral failure.

        Expect them to be decent for fucks sake, and they probably will.

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          13 hours ago

          You sound completely out of touch.

          If you bothered to read the rest of the comment instead of just the first two sentences, you’ll see that I explained exactly why this an idiotic idea that won’t achieve anything. You have to actually be brain dead to think that finger wagging to a bunch of teenagers is going to result in anything, not to mention that you can’t control how parents will raise their kids nor can you control the knowledge parents have of this tech. This is something that can ONLY be solved through legislation.

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            13 hours ago

            Yeah I’m going to work on the real root cause which is the culture that promotes uncaring and malicious behavior, regardless of the technology that is being used to exact that behavior.

            It’s out of touch to think that this sort of thing don’t happen with more crude tools. Are you going to play wack a mole with every new tool and platform that comes up?

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              13 hours ago

              I hate to break it to you, but this is a phenomenon happening all over the world, it’s not unique to any single society or culture. Not to mention that you don’t even have a real proposal in mind. Your grand solution here is demonize boys and wag your finger at their parents, if you think that’s going to achieve anything then you’re really are out of touch.

              If all you care about is wagging your finger to feed your weird moral superiority complex, go ahead. However, I don’t have any interest in that. I want to see real, pragmatic, and tangible steps being taken to ensure that we get real results. The reality is that we have a new technology that’s completely unregulated, and this lack of regulation is causing this tech to be utilized in ways that shouldn’t be allowed. Deepfake websites shouldn’t be allowed to operate legally, and kids shouldn’t be able to access them so easily. Will a ban stop everyone? Of course not, however, it will greatly decrease the amount of people seeking because it’s not longer convenient to do so That’s how we can prevent situation like this one.

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                  58 minutes ago

                  Have you ever tried using photoshop? It’s harder and more intensive than it looks. There’s a reason why fake nudes exploded in popularity only after deepfake AI sites became a thing. You literally only need to find a website and upload a picture to get a deepfake nude. For photoshop, you got to download video editing software, learn to use it, and then actually do the work. Like seriously, people in this thread live in some alternate world. Lemmy is such a bubble.