Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer laid out a new Democratic counterproposal for ending the government shutdown: attaching a one-year extension of soon-to-expire Affordable Care Act subsidies to a spending stopgap that would reopen agencies.
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“This is a reasonable offer that reopens the government, deals with health care affordability and begins a process of negotiating reforms to the ACA tax credits for the future,” Schumer said. “Now the ball is in the Republicans’ court. We need Republicans to just say, ‘Yes.”
The offer generated some quick GOP backlash, however. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) posted on X that it would unduly benefit health insurance companies to blindly extend the subsidies: “Another year of insane profits at the expense of consumers and American taxpayers,” he wrote.
Schumer’s counteroffer came after Democrats met privately for hours Thursday to try to find a path forward that would unify the caucus. It’s a shift from the start of the shutdown, when Democrats included a permanent extension of the Obamacare subsidies in an alternative to the GOP-led continuing resolution that passed the House.
Shortly before Schumer’s speech, a group of roughly a dozen members of the Senate Democratic Caucus — including the No. 2 leader, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois — met in a Capitol basement office. The group included senators who have been negotiating with Republicans about a path out of the shutdown, as well as other Democratic senators viewed as potential swing votes.
A person familiar with the conversation, granted anonymity to describe the private discussion, said that “tone and approach” of the senators in the meeting “doesn’t reflect what you see on the floor.”
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Is a 1 year stay not reasonable?
This puts off many starving while not letting the republicans do what they want no? Is bouncing off the rev limiter perhaps but at least there would be a limiter?
I mean, if they stay for longer, what would they be getting out of that?
No, it isn’t unfortunately. It means that any pain they potentially stave off now will be back on the table in another year. It just kicks the can down the road and if anything, it shows that they will be willing to cave into the same demands or arguements again next time.
We got here because the dems didn’t push back in any meaningful way over the last 16 years. Look at how McConnel fucked us over with the supreme court justices, judicial nominations, committee appointments etc.
We are here because the left tried to be reasonable with unreasonable people. Now that the stakes are high enough they finally figured out that strategy doesn’t work. I hope they make the repubs own the mess they made and show the public exactly why the govt is shut down, and whose fault it really is.
Kicks the can down the road till right before the mid terms, where they will have it fresh in peoples active memories?
The same demands as the republicans not doing the thing they has maintained is the line?
We also got here because people expect magic one term fixes, didn’t want to be lead by women, and thought that picking fascism was better than acknowledging the least bad party wasn’t all that great but they should still vote for them.
One thing I don’t get is that people expect the world from democrats while not giving them the power to do that.
Then they expect the DNC to be listening to them, when they barely show up to primaries and so they continue to get the same old blood making the problem that they complain about the DNC having.
No. I think the left didn’t try to be reasonable with reasonable people, and as a result left people who didn’t care about them to reason with unreasonable people.
What I am saying is that I think online leftists really badly want to pretend this isn’t partially on them too, like they weren’t doing GOP campaigning for them and like they did their best to try to make the DNC more progressive by force, when really all they did was bitch that they didn’t change, bitch when they were in office without 3 branches and a super majority and didn’t accomplish what it would take just doing illegal things to accomplish, and who are now bitching that the democrats they didn’t support enough to give significant power arent doing super hero feats to solve this.
I guess what I’m saying is that I think voter apathy and shitty people who thought feeling superior meant more than the actual consequences all lead to this point. I think blaming the DNC is not useful, because they aren’t the people, and therefore the conversation should be about “How can we force an atagonistic DNC to do what they want, when its obvious they have every incentive to just stick with neoliberalism and just be the ‘at least we arent that’ party”. People didn’t ask that, and instead got burned out when they didnt get magic in a short time period.
A one year extension is after the midterms.
It wouldn’t be from the time the shutdown started?
In that case, thats… pretty stupid.
Expiration of the credits is at the end of the calendar year. It hasn’t happened yet.
While that is true, Democrats get to campaign against Republicans using it. They can say things like “we fought for you last year and Republicans finally gave in; now they’re taking it away for good.”
Granted, without actually feeling the pain, and knowing it was Democrats that proposed the new end date, it rings a bit hollow, but I’m no political marketing person.
Your post could be summarized as:
“Never hold Democrats accountable for anything, as they will always be able to cite the 60 vote rule in the Senate. Completely ignore the things they can don’t do that they could do with the power they do have. Just keep voting Democrat forever. Voting for the good team is more important than actually making policy changes.”
You’re already so off base you completely missed the point of my comment.
Its not “Never hold Democrats accountable for anything”. Its that you shouldn’t shoot off your own leg to own the DNC. Thats the mentality of a lot of online leftists. They are willing to actually shotgun the chances of the changes they want to see being successful in order to punish an organization that largely and clearly, even in their own opinions, runs contrary to their goals and is incentivised differently than their feelings of anger and rage would have them act.
“Holding democrats accountable” by making them lose, is cutting your own legs off to splash some blood on their Louis Vuitton; Its stupid childish shit that hurts real people. They care way more about not doing what you want than they do about losing.
You can accept that reality and accept that the best and by far most pragmatic way to react is to primary people, vote in state and local politics and continue to campaign for a party you know is somewhat antagonistic to your goals, or you can chop your legs off and basically do free marketing for the people who actively want to hurt you as opposed to passively wanting to take from you, keep taxes on the rich low, etc etc.
There are no magic third options (that actually work or are possible).
They won’t if people stopped the foolish infighting and instead just tried to take over the party from within while supporting them when it comes the time to fall in line. Thats the reality of that situation. The reality is that the filibusterer exists, and will continue to, and that it will continue to be an excuse they use.
No it does not. Firstly, they actually do a ton when in power, and secondly the things they don’t do but should, we don’t ignore. We just weigh the options without thinking like angsty teenagers ready to cause self harm just to get our parents to notice us.
What this ignores is that voting for the good team is exactly how you make positive changes. You can’t make positive changes by turning your country into a hellscape. You can’t change them with a third party. So how are you going to change them? You pick the party of 2 that is closest to you, and you change them from within.
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