It’s the only piece of consumer software I’ve ever used that I straight-up thought should be illegal after I tried it. If you’re a parent, and you’re wondering if you should let your child explore Roblox: DON’T. Ban any videos that mention Roblox from their apps, do not install the game, and do not ever give that company a single cent. The entire structure is designed to torment children and yank on their psychological levers until they beg their parents to buy them in-game currency to turn their low-low into a high-high for a couple of minutes, then restart the cycle.
There are VIP areas that you have to have a subscription (pay) to go into, and devs are incentivized to add them by kickbacks, so they show up in just about every game. In competitive games where you chase other players to catch them, if you don’t have VIP the other players can literally just go through a wall you can’t pass to get away. Then they can get boosts in the VIP area to get an unfair advantage.
There’s the “revenge” buttons, where if someone in a competitive game wins against you, it gives you a button you can click to to punish the other player in various ways. Naturally, it costs real money.
Obstacle courses start out decent, but once you’re far enough in that the sunk cost fallacy is in effect, it ramps the difficulty up massively and frustrates you over and over. And each time you respawn it makes you walk past the item you can buy that will make this frustrating part disappear and get you back to the nice dopamine hits like you had earlier in the map.
And of course, every game tries to make people who buy the pay-to-win items as visible as possible, and make it look as spectacular as possible. It’s masterful psychological manipulation, and while the games with these exploitative systems are made by devs external to Roblox itself, the economy and reward systems that shaped those games is defined by Roblox. It’s actually worse that you have external devs, because it insulates Roblox from the responsibility for these exploitative mechanics, while Roblox acts as the bank you use to buy currency for the games. Roblox only cares about money, and they don’t care how many abusive things their games have to do to kids to get it.
I’m about as far from a pearl-clutcher as you can get while still being a responsible parent, but even before considering that the social features are repeatedly being used to groom children, Roblox simply should not be allowed to exist. Play Goat Simulator 3 with your kid instead. Or Minecraft. Or Terraria. A Lego game. Bayonetta. I don’t care–anything but Roblox.
As a similarly old curmudgeon, my understanding is that it’s like Second Life, but with the ability for users to create whole-ass games. And (hopefully) less cybersex considering the primary audience is underage
Unfortunately, whole ass-games are very much present on Roblox (they’re so common there’s a six-letter word for them which I won’t repeat in this SFW community).
To get items in Roblox for a relative, I used to pretend to be a child and find users who would groom me. They were entirely unaware that I was quite probably older than they were. I saved hundreds of dollars on gifts, and it didn’t cost me all that much time. Roblox is not safe for kids
Ninja something, muscle something, and a game that looked a bit like prototype. All incremental games. As you can tell, I wasn’t particularly invested in them. I don’t imagine you or your son begged in global chat for several minutes at a time with intentional spelling errors.
It’s not second life at all. It’s a game platform like Steam. But they made it super easy so kids starting coding their own games.
Back in the 80’s there were computer magazines that would post BASIC code you could type in and play a simple game. Kids would mail in their code and it would be published. Same exploitation of child labor.
As an old curmudgeon, I refuse to learn what the Roblox is
In this house we’re a Minecraft family
proving once again you are a wise curmudgeon
It’s child exploitation for profit:
investigation: How Roblox is Exploiting Young Game Developers
Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.
It’s the only piece of consumer software I’ve ever used that I straight-up thought should be illegal after I tried it. If you’re a parent, and you’re wondering if you should let your child explore Roblox: DON’T. Ban any videos that mention Roblox from their apps, do not install the game, and do not ever give that company a single cent. The entire structure is designed to torment children and yank on their psychological levers until they beg their parents to buy them in-game currency to turn their low-low into a high-high for a couple of minutes, then restart the cycle.
There are VIP areas that you have to have a subscription (pay) to go into, and devs are incentivized to add them by kickbacks, so they show up in just about every game. In competitive games where you chase other players to catch them, if you don’t have VIP the other players can literally just go through a wall you can’t pass to get away. Then they can get boosts in the VIP area to get an unfair advantage.
There’s the “revenge” buttons, where if someone in a competitive game wins against you, it gives you a button you can click to to punish the other player in various ways. Naturally, it costs real money.
Obstacle courses start out decent, but once you’re far enough in that the sunk cost fallacy is in effect, it ramps the difficulty up massively and frustrates you over and over. And each time you respawn it makes you walk past the item you can buy that will make this frustrating part disappear and get you back to the nice dopamine hits like you had earlier in the map.
And of course, every game tries to make people who buy the pay-to-win items as visible as possible, and make it look as spectacular as possible. It’s masterful psychological manipulation, and while the games with these exploitative systems are made by devs external to Roblox itself, the economy and reward systems that shaped those games is defined by Roblox. It’s actually worse that you have external devs, because it insulates Roblox from the responsibility for these exploitative mechanics, while Roblox acts as the bank you use to buy currency for the games. Roblox only cares about money, and they don’t care how many abusive things their games have to do to kids to get it.
I’m about as far from a pearl-clutcher as you can get while still being a responsible parent, but even before considering that the social features are repeatedly being used to groom children, Roblox simply should not be allowed to exist. Play Goat Simulator 3 with your kid instead. Or Minecraft. Or Terraria. A Lego game. Bayonetta. I don’t care–anything but Roblox.
Gotta get them started early on the capitalism train. Prove to them that money makes right.
If you can buy it, it’s morally good! :)
If it doesn’t make a profit, it’s morally bad! :(
If you can’t get exactly what you want, don’t work for it, just buy it.
Money is the only thing you need. You don’t need friends. Or family. Or a community. You see they are all just trying to get your money!
Seriously, we are brainwashing people with these fucked up game mechanics. These are very young impressionable children.
All of this is ignoring that pedophillic aspect of Roblox which is also horrific.
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As a similarly old curmudgeon, my understanding is that it’s like Second Life, but with the ability for users to create whole-ass games. And (hopefully) less cybersex considering the primary audience is underage
Unfortunately, whole ass-games are very much present on Roblox (they’re so common there’s a six-letter word for them which I won’t repeat in this SFW community).
Shovel? As in shovelware?
No.
To get items in Roblox for a relative, I used to pretend to be a child and find users who would groom me. They were entirely unaware that I was quite probably older than they were. I saved hundreds of dollars on gifts, and it didn’t cost me all that much time. Roblox is not safe for kids
I play online with my son and have never ever seen that. It’s almost all tower defense games which would be a different crowd.
What games were you playing that had that kind of chat going on?
Ninja something, muscle something, and a game that looked a bit like prototype. All incremental games. As you can tell, I wasn’t particularly invested in them. I don’t imagine you or your son begged in global chat for several minutes at a time with intentional spelling errors.
Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news…
It’s not second life at all. It’s a game platform like Steam. But they made it super easy so kids starting coding their own games.
Back in the 80’s there were computer magazines that would post BASIC code you could type in and play a simple game. Kids would mail in their code and it would be published. Same exploitation of child labor.