• sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch
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    Let’s say we lived in an ideal global society. No inequality, no hatred, no pedo-governments, no war.

    • We would still be immersed 24/7 in a corrosive gas that slowly kills us with each breath we take.
    • Our bodies would still require constant maintenance trough regular and painful excercise.
    • Our bodies would still be ravaged by disease: The cold. The flu. Tooth decay. Anxiety/Depression. Corona. Aging. Cancer. Death.
    • Billions of Pigs would still be tortured every day so this ideal society does not have to waiver anything.
    • We would still work 9-5 doing necessary but boring stuff like cleaning toilets, assembling devices, maintaining machines, disposing of waste, spraying the fields. Because all those modern ameneties require much more work to produce than happiness they generate.
    • We would stilk fear the day when this ideal society collapses, even when this society was actually eternal. Because brains are designed to worry.
    • There would still be plenty of disabled people. Physical and mental. They would not be equal, even in an ideal society. Millions of those would be in constant pain, with no cure in sight.

    Life is only beautiful to masochists and or sadists.

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      48 minutes ago

      In an ideal society,

      1. We would actively try to clean our environment and aggressively implement renewable energy sources in every aspect.
      2. If you want to live long, you need to keep your body fit. Exercise is the cheapest amount of effort you need to keep it healthy.
      3. Yes, there would still be many incurable diseases but society would be doing the best to find a cure.
      4. Torture isn’t required to run a pig farm. It happens in a society where profit is the utmost priority instead of rearing and quality. Or maybe developing something like cloning only meat instead of a full organism.
      5. An ideal society would implement something like universal basic income or something similar so that everyone can do whatever they like instead of menial labour. Menial labour can be assigned to autonomous systems or robots.
      6. Nothing lasts forever. You can’t do anything about entropy. You can worry for the inevitable demise or live in the moment.
      7. An ideal society would not discriminate anyone on the basis of disability or anyone’s misfortunes. There would be extensive therapies, rehabilitations, redresses and in worst case, voluntary euthanasia.

      An ideal society would do everything in their power to make it an ideal utopia, so why limit it to some pessimistic depiction even in your imagination.

      Life is whatever you perceive it to be. You may have a shitty hand, but it still is yours to play however you want.

  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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    7 hours ago

    Let’s have it all. All I need is enough free time to design the perfect Lemmy community, then we can organize, then I will try to expand (need my own site because banned from Reddit. A prime example of why a corporation controlling most of the internet is a bad idea. They can just censor any movement before it even starts. Btw, I kind of deserve it, I acted out when I was in shitty mental health, I expected to kill myself anyway)

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 hours ago

    People are exhausted from work and that’s what causes them to perceive everything in an ugly light. Because it turns out, when you’re not doing well (mentally, emotionally), that skews your perception so everything looks a bit more ugly to you.

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      Pigeons only unclean

      Birds are the filthy, degenerate hillbilly cousins of dinosaurs that are constantly covered in shit, dirt, blood and disease. Some are less dirty than others, and human garbage introduces new types of filth and disease, but their natural state (like most animals) is disgusting.

      IMO, many humans are only marginally cleaner than birds. Some definitely have about pigeon-level self-awareness when it comes to the state of their personal hygiene.

  • ileftreddit@piefed.social
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    22 hours ago

    Society is a fully human construct and humans can change it anytime they want. We can create our reality, it doesn’t have to be like this for our children or theirs

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      8 hours ago

      But but… Money, and land, and power and that person is different to what I’m used to and makes me uncomfortable, where’s my favourite throwing rock?

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      We’d have to agree on the cause of the problem and what those problems are but on of the problem is the people who like things the way they are, the people who benefit the most from the status quo, are sowing confusion about those things are.

      You can see it when opposite participant in the leftright framework agree on what the problem is be have nearly completely opposed causal explanation and solutions to that problem.

      We can tell the billionaire and the mainstream establishment are ducking us, manipulating us, constantly brainhacking us with advertising and addiction grooming us, that they’re buying the politics and the politicians are and aspire to be billionaires as well and have aligned their interested with the rich and powerful against us.

      The problem I think IS concentration of information and social power in all its forms, whoever gets the upperhand over all of us should be getting the most scrutiny and not given the space to hide and manipulate us. Power should come with a dispelling of privacy maybe ?

      That’s still not even close …

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      22 hours ago

      Not if you’re on the top of the food chain or have opposable thumbs (check mate cats)

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      17 hours ago

      Yeah, life is super fucking ugly. We just have the ability to create beauty out of it (but usually choose to wallow in shit instead).

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    11 hours ago

    Life is a system of cells eating cells until they get bigger so they can eat even more cells: Life is ugly.

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    I have a theory, and it ties in with Agent Smith’s theory from the Matrix. Mine is, that as soon as we remove one cause of stress in our lives, we add at least one new one to replace it.

    Maybe we’re just not meant to live in a utopia.

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      The kind of society that “won out” over the other kinds we’ve tried is definitely a contributor. When Europeans were integrating with the plains Indians in the US and Canada many of them noted how the “less-civilized” people seemed to be a good deal more civilized than themselves in a lot of respects (like with mutual aid, division of labor and resources, etc.). But there’s no reason to think we can’t get there again.

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        Is there evidence of this? Most historical writings on colonial attitudes towards Indigineous people is that they were seen as primitive and backward for not having similar infrastructure, focussing on sustainability rather than productivity and not being Christian.

        It would be fascinating to hear of there were more balanced voices back then but the general attitude of European settlers at the time was we are here to take land and control trade because our God ordained it.

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          There are numerous contemporaneous writings that are either (a) in French or (b) hard to read because of flowery Enlightenment-era English, but Dave Graeber and David Wengrow do an excellent job of collecting together a lot of the relevant information in The Dawn of Everything. There are also plenty of other really good histories of the Wendat and Huron people and Pacific coast potlatch societies though I can’t think of the authors I’ve liked right at the moment.

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            Its a fascinating postulation that Indigineous thought leaders may have influenced enlightenment thinkers. Its unfortunate (understatement) that the European colonial machine ultimately chose to create a racist counter narrative to justify generations of genocide despite this.

            During the colonial era the West was often very quick to take credit for knowledge imparted on other regions while quietly neglecting to cite sources when they learned from others.

            Its too bad that they who adopted such wisdom could not see the humanity in those it came from.

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      22 hours ago

      I really think that’s just what “the system” wants us to think. We should at least never give up the hope and faith that good things can happen

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        Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure it would be nice. It just feels like there’s a constant resistance to our lives, in total improving too much.

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      Maybe meditation and inner peace are just elaborate coping mechanisms that exercise the muscle of rising above chaos so you can breathe, for a bit